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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I find it very funny how people are dunking on op but I gotta ask one thing. Who remembers the order of mechanics in alliance raids?? Naturally I dont give a damn if people cheat in pve but I am wondering.
    Personally speaking I can't name every mechanic (actually I'm just bad with names in general so that's a problem even in current content LOL) in a fight but even if its been a while I can generally recall it quickly enough to act.

    Actually recently I ran Void Ark again and got most of the mechanics right on the first try. Only screwed up on Cu Chulainn because I mixed up which mechanic happened when lol
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  2. #52
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Yeah, you conveniently missed the part where later in this thread the OP finally caved and told people the mechanic that roused their suspicions and people gave them multiple signs(including an obvious cast bar) that would explain the player in question's movements.
    Then op's other tank had the castbars for help and in fact played within their window of opportunity.
    Refusing to read the whole thread is convenient, I admit that.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    Then op's other tank had the castbars for help and in fact played within their window of opportunity.
    Refusing to read the whole thread is convenient, I admit that.
    For that mechanic specifically you can move before the castbar if you remember the timeline correctly. Not something I would bother with doing for alliance raids but that's neither here nor there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Laughing at the concept of needing to cheat through a 24 man raid. And at the thought of caring as though it really changed the outcome of clearing it.

    Can’t say I care enough about the story though to get up in arms either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I find it very funny how people are dunking on op but I gotta ask one thing. Who remembers the order of mechanics in alliance raids?? Naturally I dont give a damn if people cheat in pve but I am wondering.
    It's called building muscle memory (or whatever it's called for a videogame) after running content a certain amount of times.

    Most times I'm not thinking that I have to move out of something, I just move. In fact, sometimes I'm slower at reacting and moving if I think about it.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I find it very funny how people are dunking on op but I gotta ask one thing. Who remembers the order of mechanics in alliance raids?? Naturally I dont give a damn if people cheat in pve but I am wondering.
    I do alliance raid every day pretty much and I don't even think about it on some of them. I do keep my headphones on so I often know where we are from the music and audio cues. And those can indicate something before the actual mechanic gets telegraphed.

    Plus OP mentioned this is a tank so they should be pretty close to the boss. And on the particular mechanic described it would be very easy to preposition as a tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Laughing at the concept of needing to cheat through a 24 man raid. And at the thought of caring as though it really changed the outcome of clearing it.
    Also a little sus a tank would even care if they get an vuln up in an alliance raid.

    "Oh no, I got a vuln up!
    "Anyway..."
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    Last edited by TaleraRistain; 09-12-2023 at 02:43 AM.

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    I don't think it's that unlikely for someone to be using Cactbot in a 24 man.

    You used to see it in almost every single p8s pug last tier, it's in much wider use than people seem to realize.

    Heck, one of the games biggest streamers was caught using it in dungeon roulettes when he messed up his audio channels once lol.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I don't think it's that unlikely for someone to be using Cactbot in a 24 man.

    You used to see it in almost every single p8s pug last tier, it's in much wider use than people seem to realize.

    Heck, one of the games biggest streamers was caught using it in dungeon roulettes when he messed up his audio channels once lol.
    the bigger questions is "do we care?"

    to which the majority response ive seen is "nah"

    youre just cheating yourself, if you can live with it you do you
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    the bigger questions is "do we care?"

    to which the majority response ive seen is "nah"

    youre just cheating yourself, if you can live with it you do you
    Fair.

    I just thought it was weird how many people were running interference for the accused, when addon use really isnt all that unlikely.
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    I would not think all bosses. But some do have random splash down circles that you have to move from. But how would an addon even know where a random splash was going to take place? I thought they start from a random players position?


    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Also a little sus a tank would even care if they get an vuln up in an alliance raid.

    "Oh no, I got a vuln up!
    "Anyway..."

    I admit I have been bored and maybe seen how many vuln ups I can get as a tank and not die.I don't think anything under 4 stacks is even worth dodging in 24 man. It is the instant death over the edge ones.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 09-12-2023 at 03:06 AM.

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