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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    It's not that long, maybe 2 to 4 hours if you're unlucky. ARR relic has some really grindy steps that would benefits some rework, but this ain't one. At least it's fates, content that last for 3 min then you get another one. There is RNG everywhere with relics, and some far worst than that. In the list of RNG steps that need some kind of rework, this one is so far on the list that if you have a problem with that, you might as well just stop trying to get the relics.
    Or unlucky like me and do 20+ fates in a zone and don't get a single drop. It sucks and it has no logical reason to anymore especially when you have to sync down for fates.

    It's the beginning of a long slog and it's also 10 year old content. The drop rate should at least be 25%, if not 50%
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Halicarnassus
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Or unlucky like me and do 20+ fates in a zone and don't get a single drop. It sucks and it has no logical reason to anymore especially when you have to sync down for fates.

    It's the beginning of a long slog and it's also 10 year old content. The drop rate should at least be 25%, if not 50%
    Is someone going to tell them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Folko View Post
    I am consistently hopping zones every 4-5 FATEs, and it's so absurd because I can hop through the entire list and get nothing. Then I start the next day from central shroud, drop 2 maiden atmas one fate after another and then nothing else drops for the rest of the day.

    I genuinely do not understand how can someone defend RNG, it doesn't reward focus and hard work, it rewards dumb luck. A player can spend well over a week trying to get all the atma crystals, while another player can just get insanely lucky and have 11 sets of atmas ready in like a day or two. That is hardly fair.

    If at the very least completing FATEs actually gave something useful so as to compensate for lost time other than pocket change of Gil and GC seals.
    Don't think anyone has done 11 sets of atmas in a day or two, assuming that's a quiet jab at me. It took me a few weeks to grind that out.

    I'm not against improvements towards RNG, it's just more so that this is older optional content. There's worse older content out there in that regard I feel. Would rather they focus on not making that mistake again, with this as their reminder.
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Is someone going to tell them?



    Don't think anyone has done 11 sets of atmas in a day or two, assuming that's a quiet jab at me. It took me a few weeks to grind that out.

    I'm not against improvements towards RNG, it's just more so that this is older optional content. There's worse older content out there in that regard I feel. Would rather they focus on not making that mistake again, with this as their reminder.
    Not trying to snark at you, but I was able to get all atma in a weekend over about 4 hours lazily grinding.

    It was not fun and I’d never do it again, but I did. I was able to grind Excalibur in a week, mostly a few hours a day.

    I didn’t feel my rng was particularly good, but rng gonna rng.

    I highly doubt 11 sets are possible in a weekend, but a try hard no-sleep balls to the wall kinda guy might be able to pull it off.
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Not trying to snark at you, but I was able to get all atma in a weekend over about 4 hours lazily grinding.

    It was not fun and I’d never do it again, but I did. I was able to grind Excalibur in a week, mostly a few hours a day.

    I didn’t feel my rng was particularly good, but rng gonna rng.

    I highly doubt 11 sets are possible in a weekend, but a try hard no-sleep balls to the wall kinda guy might be able to pull it off.
    The reason I asked them is because I grinded out 11 sets of atma(was going for 12 before I realized there were only 10 jobs in ARR). It's actually posted up here on the forums in a topic of its own, so I assumed they were poking at that.

    Not to snark you in return, but you're attempting to make a point towards someone who is on the same side of the discussion as you.
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    Last edited by NekoMataMata; 09-11-2023 at 12:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    The reason I asked them is because I grinded out 11 sets of atma(was going for 12 before I realized there were only 10 jobs in ARR). It's actually posted up here on the forums in a topic of its own, so I assumed they were poking at that.
    I guess my main point is more directed to OP- that RNG does suck, but it’s not really THAT unreasonable to farm up a single set of Atma.

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Not to snark you in return, but you're attempting to make a point towards someone who is on the same side of the discussion as you.
    All good!
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    Y'leria Rhul
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    This. For an ancient now only for appearance weapon, it should be guaranteed.
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