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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisi View Post
    That's right. The passage referred to a time when the Scions still existed. The two above quotations are the first words being spoken between Hien and G'raha in the current time.

    The failure of the writing here is a mixup in tenses, they should have used past perfect (he had endeavored to seperate the man from the myth) rather than simple past. And it's obvious if you actually read the text.
    I would appreciate you not being so smug about this. Partly because it comes off really rude, but also because, while yes, that line does exist and is correct in the sense you described, so do these lines directly afterwards:

    The young lord gestured for G'raha to sit, and he gratefully obliged, curious to hear what his host had to say. As Hien explained it, the seeds of change had begun to quicken in Garlemald, and Radz-at-Han, having reopened trade with the ravaged nation, was now organizing a summit between the leaders of the resurgent Garlean community and the dignitaries of various surrounding countries. And, lest he further strain relations between Doma and Garlemald, Hien wished to gain insight into the Empire's present state. The acting viceroy of Locus Amoenus─or Corvos, as it had formerly been known─would be in attendance, and intelligence regarding the province was therefore of particular interest.

    Recalling that Thancred had infiltrated Locus Amoenus during the Final Days, and trusting none more than the Scions to keep an accurate account of events in the midst of such chaos, Hien had reached out to the grizzled rogue for any information he might care to disclose.

    "Imagine my surprise when he told me there was another Scion better suited to the task─one who not only joined him on the mission, but hailed from Corvos besides."
    If you need help with the timeline, that trade reopening with Garlemald and Radz-at-Han was in 6.4.

    So yes, G'raha is shown to describe himself as a Scion when they were still an extant organization. But Hien and the off-screen Thancred are describing the Scions after their disbanding, in their current state as just a name with meaning. Carin-Eri and Vyrerus are responding to something within the text of the story, even if it's not true of that one line you highlighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    I would appreciate you not being so smug about this. Partly because it comes off really rude, but also because, while yes, that line does exist and is correct in the sense you described, so do these lines directly afterwards:
    I am enjoying myself, I would hope you do too when you're smug like this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    And I really don't think the situation with the Scions is that difficult to grasp, I really think you're just being obstinate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    If you need help with the timeline, that trade reopening with Garlemald and Radz-at-Han was in 6.4.

    So yes, G'raha is shown to describe himself as a Scion when they were still an extant organization. But Hien and the off-screen Thancred are describing the Scions after their disbanding, in their current state as just a name with meaning. Carin-Eri and Vyrerus are responding to something within the text of the story, even if it's not true of that one line you highlighted.
    That's very sweet and not smug at all that you offer help with the timeline, but once again the text doesn't refer to the Scions with respect to the infiltration of Locus Amoenus during the Final Days.

    Recalling that Thancred had infiltrated Locus Amoenus during the Final Days, and trusting none more than the Scions to keep an accurate account of events in the midst of such chaos, Hien had reached out to the grizzled rogue for any information he might care to disclose.

    "Imagine my surprise when he told me there was another Scion better suited to the task─one who not only joined him on the mission, but hailed from Corvos besides."
    Bold Quote is you being right tho, damn! Ok you're right, that's something Thancred said in the present time. Or something Hien interpreted, showing G'raha with a tiny lil slip-up that he knows the Scions are still active.

    Should have read the whole text rather than just the part that Carin-Eri quoted in an entirely different thread!
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