Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[BRVV]

At this point we are well on our way to semantic satiation. We'll repeat the phrase until it's lost all meaning.

dimply tart, dimply tart, simply fart, pimply ward

It's so great that this is what this conversation has devolved to. Instead of discussing the issues with Endwalker and our concerns that Dawntrail is just going to be more of the same (or even going further in that direction), it's could Zepla have worded her video more kindly, what was her body language, how to word your own posts so noone takes offense or who cares anyway cause Zepla is just some <insert insult>. Jfc.

There is more drama here than on YT...

LoL I scanned back through this thread and I think the metagaming herd decided I was a troll and put me on ignore? Apparently my ideas were so radical and unacceptable that it broke their brains and they had to invent weird conspiracy theories about me…. what the actual f***

Pardon me, who are you again?

Most consumers don't research products at all (...)
Even with review bombs hitting the first week of release, sales can continue to climb because consumers aren't doing any research.

A lot of people just want to be "in" on the current thing. I think it's a bit sad.

[Remish]

A lot of people just want to be "in" on the current thing. I think it's a bit sad.

Honestly, this kind of mentality has almost convinced me to go buy BG3 a few times.

[Ivtrix]

Honestly, this kind of mentality has almost convinced me to go buy BG3 a few times.

If you like D&D it’s essentially the 5e model packed up into a video game

[Raraka]

Endwaker is so dry in content that I unironically started playing BDO to scratch the itch for a grind

Log in for reclears, cap tomestones, close the game. I really, REALLY, wish I had a reason to stay online for longer

Im definetly waiting for a few weeks or so after Dawntrail release to decide if the content in it is worth the price, otherwise, might unsub untill 7.55 when its on sale to binge all MSQ... or quit I suppose

[Thurmnmurmn]

Endwaker is so dry in content that I unironically started playing BDO to scratch the itch for a grind

Log in for reclears, cap tomestones, close the game. I really, REALLY, wish I had a reason to stay online for longer

Im definetly waiting for a few weeks or so after Dawntrail release to decide if the content in it is worth the price, otherwise, might unsub untill 7.55 when its on sale to binge all MSQ... or quit I suppose

I'm in the same boat myself now but with wow classic hc.
But I'm also really burnt out on FFXIV as well.

[Vahlnir]

Endwaker is so dry in content that I unironically started playing BDO to scratch the itch for a grind

Log in for reclears, cap tomestones, close the game. I really, REALLY, wish I had a reason to stay online for longer

Im definetly waiting for a few weeks or so after Dawntrail release to decide if the content in it is worth the price, otherwise, might unsub untill 7.55 when its on sale to binge all MSQ... or quit I suppose

I just got back about a month ago after taking some time off. I've got enough to keep me busy and things I actually want to do until the next patch at least, but...eh. I'm not exactly having the time of my life either.

[DubiousDisk]

Endwaker is so dry in content that I unironically started playing BDO to scratch the itch for a grind

Log in for reclears, cap tomestones, close the game. I really, REALLY, wish I had a reason to stay online for longer

Im definetly waiting for a few weeks or so after Dawntrail release to decide if the content in it is worth the price, otherwise, might unsub untill 7.55 when its on sale to binge all MSQ... or quit I suppose

Funny thing is, today I was looking at my Steam games and I kept staring right at BDO.

[Supersnow845]

Remind me in 95 pages has a single person who disagrees with zepla actually refuted her points with evidence or is insulting the streamer/ i feel your reasons are wrong because……….all GCBTW can muster

[ChrysOCE]

Remind me in 95 pages has a single person who disagrees with zepla actually refuted her points with evidence or is insulting the streamer/ i feel your reasons are wrong because……….all GCBTW can muster

Certainly haven't seen anyone actually refuting the points with saying that EW content is long-lasting and well designed. Just insults, derailing or trying to argue that players (either brand new or still progressing through MSQ) have lots of content to do, so there are no issues - which was never the point of the video or the discontent that those, who share the view, feel.

[Striker44]

Certainly haven't seen anyone actually refuting the points with saying that EW content is long-lasting and well designed. Just insults, derailing or trying to argue that players (either brand new or still progressing through MSQ) have lots of content to do, so there are no issues - which was never the point of the video or the discontent that those, who share the view, feel.

I think the issue is there would first need to be points to refute. I just see a bunch of subjective opinions that anyone can freely agree or disagree with alongside claims that are likewise questionable. For example, comments like "it's the same stuff over and over" or "we need an exploration zone" - people can just as easily enjoy exactly what the "same stuff" is and dislike exploration zones. There's nothing to "refute" there, just our own personal likes and dislikes.

Then you have comments like "My FC is pretty dead" and "content lasts for only 3 days". That may well be true for the individuals posting it, but not for others. My FC is very alive, for example, and when a new patch releases, it usually takes me about 3-4 weeks to gradually play through the new MSQ, Raid/Alliance Raid quests, sidequests like Tataru, etc.. And once that's done, I go back to the proverbial laundry list of other things I'm still looking forward to trying or finishing (finally got my last ARR relic on NIN a week or so ago).

So, I think most of it is that there really aren't any points to "refute", just someone offering personal opinions that anyone can freely agree or disagree with. Sadly, given the history of this forum, I'd say the rest of it is that even if there were things to refute, people could clearly and thoroughly do so, and certain others on here would just willfully ignore those posts and then continue to claim nobody has refuted anything.