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  1. #841
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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Can we please stop repeating the phrase "dimply tart." I've never seen it before in my life, and I've already seen it written more times than I ever needed to.
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  2. #842
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Can we please stop repeating the phrase "dimply tart." I've never seen it before in my life, and I've already seen it written more times than I ever needed to.
    At this point we are well on our way to semantic satiation. We'll repeat the phrase until it's lost all meaning.
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  3. #843
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zairava View Post
    She absolutely does not have to tone done her opinion because people refuse to see the bigger point she is making. It doesn't matter if she put it politely enough as if she was coddling a child, people would still find reasons to be upset toward her for one reason or another.
    That would actually annoy me more than anything. I'd rather have someone swear at me than have them talk to me like I'm a fragile toddler who needs their feelings protected from the big mean words.
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  4. #844
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    SargeTheSeagull's Avatar
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    Zepla is right, the community cannot take ANY criticism about 14 at all. On the main subreddit an hour ago I said that 14 was falling behind the other big MMO's like GW2 and WoW and that comment is sitting at -13 votes right now.
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  5. #845
    Player ChonkGoblinSuprem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    Zepla is right, the community cannot take ANY criticism about 14 at all. On the main subreddit an hour ago I said that 14 was falling behind the other big MMO's like GW2 and WoW and that comment is sitting at -13 votes right now.
    Actually that’s because it is a bs troll post trying to drum up a stupid “Console Wars” type internet slap fight.
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    Last edited by ChonkGoblinSuprem; 09-07-2023 at 04:14 AM. Reason: added quot

  6. #846
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    Zepla is right, the community cannot take ANY criticism about 14 at all. On the main subreddit an hour ago I said that 14 was falling behind the other big MMO's like GW2 and WoW and that comment is sitting at -13 votes right now.
    I think it's often less what you say and how you say it, and this isn't a "FFXIV community" thing, it's a Human thing.

    "I think you might get better reactions from people if you attempt to enhance your personal presentation."
    vs
    "GOD you stink! Have you showered...ever? My nose is offended by your very presence. You disgust me, you slob! And what's with those clothes? Have you never heard of an iron, washing machine, or style in your life? Maybe if you weren't such a sack of trash, people would give you the time of day!"

    Both are essentially saying the same thing, but one is VERY likely not to be taken as an honest attempt at critique and helping. I saw someone in FFXIVdiscussion saying how they were just honestly critiquing the game in the mainsub but were attacked for it. When the folks in Discussion asked for them to link to the thread they got downvoted, the person got evasive, refused to say it, then deleted their posts. The going take on the Discussion sub was that the person likely was kind of a dick in their OP and didn't want people to tell them that might be why they got the downvotes, not the critiques themselves, and the person ended up deleting the threads/posts rather than face the fact that it was how they were saying things - basically being insulting and a jerk to everyone - not what they were saying.

    Very often, we think we're saying things in a way that is neutral and fair, but people don't take it that way. Part of this is just a downside of text communication, but sometimes it is people being kind of...dicks. And then shocked when people mouth off to them in return.
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  7. #847
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    I think it's often less what you say and how you say it, and this isn't a "FFXIV community" thing, it's a Human thing.

    "I think you might get better reactions from people if you attempt to enhance your personal presentation."
    vs
    "GOD you stink! Have you showered...ever? My nose is offended by your very presence. You disgust me, you slob! And what's with those clothes? Have you never heard of an iron, washing machine, or style in your life? Maybe if you weren't such a sack of trash, people would give you the time of day!"

    Both are essentially saying the same thing, but one is VERY likely not to be taken as an honest attempt at critique and helping. I saw someone in FFXIVdiscussion saying how they were just honestly critiquing the game in the mainsub but were attacked for it. When the folks in Discussion asked for them to link to the thread they got downvoted, the person got evasive, refused to say it, then deleted their posts. The going take on the Discussion sub was that the person likely was kind of a dick in their OP and didn't want people to tell them that might be why they got the downvotes, not the critiques themselves, and the person ended up deleting the threads/posts rather than face the fact that it was how they were saying things - basically being insulting and a jerk to everyone - not what they were saying.

    Very often, we think we're saying things in a way that is neutral and fair, but people don't take it that way. Part of this is just a downside of text communication, but sometimes it is people being kind of...dicks. And then shocked when people mouth off to them in return.
    tldr

    "she said something i dont like so she deserves it"

    moving on
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  8. #848
    Player FenyxRising's Avatar
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    I think someone doesn't have friends who bantered with him.

    "GOD you stink! Have you showered...ever? My nose is offended by your very presence. You disgust me, you slob! And what's with those clothes? Have you never heard of an iron, washing machine, or style in your life? Maybe if you weren't such a sack of trash, people would give you the time of day!"
    This is over the top that actually, everyone, I mean everyone, would take it as a joke.
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  9. #849
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    I think someone doesn't have friends who bantered with him.
    Or maybe after doing a little joke, they pampered him and gave him some good headpats to make sure they were okay and that it didnt hurt their feelings

    "GOD you stink! Have you showered...ever? My nose is offended by your very presence. You disgust me, you slob! And what's with those clothes? Have you never heard of an iron, washing machine, or style in your life? Maybe if you weren't such a sack of trash, people would give you the time of day!"
    Are you good bro ?
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  10. #850
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    Zepla is right, the community cannot take ANY criticism about 14 at all. On the main subreddit an hour ago I said that 14 was falling behind the other big MMO's like GW2 and WoW and that comment is sitting at -13 votes right now.
    got a link to the reddit? and wanted to chime in keep in mind on how the community attacked lazypeon to a point where he took down the video and quin
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