Zepla: Endwalker is the Worst FFXIV Expansion I have played

[Renathras]

Who even agreed with you my guy, literally nobody LOL, just stop please

Yeah, we're done here. If you have to so openly lie, then you have nothing. Moving on...

Also, if you're so confident in your views and your ability to make short posts, don't touch your alts. Limit yourself to the 20 post limit everyone else is. And, as I say, prove me wrong: Make some posts where you offer arguments and rebuttals with no personal attacks.

But this is all a sideshow.

EDIT:

That's Renathras for you buddy lmao, some people never change, too delusional, a forever "poor little victim that everyone is mean to"

...as she literally attacks a person, she says the person isn't a victim subject to attack. Well, self-awareness isn't something everyone possesses, I suppose.

What a sideshow, Twinipeaks. Still waiting for that one positive post making argument/rebutall with no personal attack...

"continue to talk"? You mean "continue to insult people"? Laughable, but not funny.

There was no personal attack in regard to what was discussed initially. YOU ARE NOT BEING ATTACKED BY ZEPLA. lol Your point was irrelevant from the start, because you had nothing. Don't play the victim for no reason and continue to do so when people call you out for it, and maybe they will take you a bit more seriously.

/sigh

Yeah, not touching it.

Find a hobby, friend.

That we will.

Hm, interesting edit. You removed the upset meme picture and replaced it with "That we will".

I mean, I approve - less childishness and a somewhat more adult response is good - so I'd like to encourage that. Just noting it.

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TO THE OP:

Zepla has her views. Many people agree with her. Many people disagree with her. /thread

[RosaliaDLB]

There was no personal attack in regard to what was discussed initially. YOU ARE NOT BEING ATTACKED BY ZEPLA. lol Your point was irrelevant from the start, because you had nothing. Don't play the victim for no reason and continue to do so when people call you out for it, and maybe they will take you a bit more seriously.

That's Renathras for you buddy lmao, some people never change, too delusional, a forever "poor little victim that everyone is mean to"

Zepla has her views. Many people agree with her. Many people disagree with her. /thread

Nah, we'll continue to talk, but thanks for your input

[Vahlnir]

Nah, we'll continue to talk, but thanks for your input

That we will.

[Supersnow845]

I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned it but it’s interesting that almost all the major streamers seem unified on this opinion, let’s say ignore the WOW refugee streamers to prove a point, the first two I think of are mr happy and “shield and heal as necessary”

Mr happy has been dead eyed for half an expansion now and shield and heal as necessary I’m pretty sure outright said EW is trash and dropped panda

Had there been a streamer in the last year or so who has actually come out and said that 14 is doing what they want right now (I honestly don’t have a pulse on xeno right now)

[Vahlnir]

I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned it but it’s interesting that almost all the major streamers seem unified on this opinion, let’s say ignore the WOW refugee streamers to prove a point, the first two I think of are mr happy and “shield and heal as necessary”

Mr happy has been dead eyed for half an expansion now and shield and heal as necessary I’m pretty sure outright said EW is trash and dropped panda

Had there been a streamer in the last year or so who has actually come out and said that 14 is doing what they want right now (I honestly don’t have a pulse on xeno right now)

What probably helps their case a bit is that most of them have been around the block way more than once in regard to MMOs. They know the warning signs, and they can make an educated guess as to where things will go from a certain point. I'm not saying that they are always right, and I certainly don't always agree with them, not even Zepla. Heck, I straight up don't like Xenos. But they actually do know a thing or two, because they've seen it a thing or two. Dismissing them just because they are a streamer seems foolish, in my opinion. I form my own opinions. To my shock and surprise, it seems that a few high profile streamers share these views as well. A lot of us around here have been trying to get others to see the writing on the wall for a long, long time now. I will admit to feeling at least a little vindicated.

[Vahlnir]

Hm, interesting edit. You removed the upset meme picture and replaced it with "That we will".

I mean, I approve - less childishness and a somewhat more adult response is good - so I'd like to encourage that. Just noting it.

I realized it was unnecessary and somewhat childish in my frustration in trying to communicate with you (it is beyond frustrating, by the way), so I changed it. No one's perfect, not even myself, and two wrongs don't make a right. That's about it. I don't often edit my posts to the point that it's a complete overhaul, though I do sometimes edit my post a few times as my thoughts get sorted, but I thought about it for a second and realized that I really didn't need to post it as it was. You are free to read into it as you like though. You won't find many layers, however.

[Renathras]

Here's the messed up part, if you ignore the tit-for-tat between the serial bullies and I, my own complaints are not dissimilar to Zepla's. I disagree with how she's expressing her complaints (again, I always oppose attacking people as part of an argument or critique), but I agree with the general idea of.

- There's not a lot to do, especially for the midcore.
- The post-EW climax high of 6.0 needed a more gradual let-down, and this was not handled well for various reasons, nor was the "adventuring reset", which seems to be pushed to 7.0 leaving us in an awkward purgatory...
- A lot of introduced content has missed the mark, even stuff that's stepping in the right direction (like Criterion)
- The pace of content is slower AND the amount released is lower AND there's nothing with grind potential to make up for it.

Those are significant critiques, and ones I have with the game right now myself.

EDIT:

I realized it was unnecessary and somewhat childish in my frustration in trying to communicate with you (it is beyond frustrating, by the way), so I changed it. No one's perfect, not even myself, and two wrongs don't make a right. That's about it. I don't often edit my posts to the point that it's a complete overhaul, though I do sometimes edit my post a few times as my thoughts get sorted, but I thought about it for a second and realized that I really didn't need to post it as it was. You are free to read into it as you like though. You won't find many layers, however.

Fair, and mutual.

Just a suggestion - you obviously don't have to take it - avoid being snarky or trying to get a mic drop on me. Instead of "You typed a ton and didn't address my point" something like "I think we disagree on what a personal attack is, maybe?" would have led to a pretty different exchange between us.

If I took one of your posts and just completely disregarded and ridiculed it, I wouldn't expect you to respond in a non-frustrating way.

[ForteNightshade]

Zepla has no clue what she is talking about. Why anyone would accept the opinion of a streamer as their own is beyond me. They are random people you meet on the street. Would you accept the opinion of a random stranger? I hope not. You keep supporting Zep though. She will be happy to pump out trash content as long as you pay her.

How does she have no clue when she's simply expressing her opinion the same as anyone else? Some "random stranger" isn't necessarily playing FFXIV whereas Zepla does. Regardless, I've held almost an identical opinion as hers since 6.2. The only difference is streamers/Youtube's have far more reach than any random person. Yoshida has outright admitted they watch Zepla, Xeno, Happy and Mizzteq. Whether you like it or not, their opinion holds actual weight because it isn't just their opinion but the several thousands liking their videos.

You can enjoy EW all you fancy. In fact, I wish I could feel the same. And I mean that genuinely. I'd prefer to actually enjoy the expansion instead of contemplating my sub because there's literally nothing worth doing. Nevertheless, respect the fact not everyone does. Like I said earlier, you're entitled to your opinion just as we are ours.

Mine is that Endwalker is decidedly underwhelming with nearly every piece of content that isn't the basic formula being a flop in some manner or another: Island Sanctuary is a glorified retainer venture and nothing else, the reward structure for Criterion is downright awful—a fact made evident by the content dying within a few weeks of its release. Seriously. Try to find a party for either of the dungeons nowadays. It's completely dead because there's zero reason to do it, especially Savage. Why put in all that effort for essentially nothing? And before you say, "I thought raiders didn't need rewards?!?!" Take the rewards away from any piece of casual content and it will instantly die too. If the upcoming 24 man didn't have any glamour drops, nobody would touch it after a week. The simple fact is people are motivated by some form of incentive—of which Criterion has none.

Deep dungeon has zero innovation and is essentially a HoH copy/paste. Then we finally get to the relic and it's been the exact same tome farm three separate times now. No innovation. No story progression. And no talking to Godbert for all of five seconds is not story progression. It's a literal "do the same daily chores you always do and here's a welfare weapon."

Of course, all of this is my own opinion entirely separate from Zepla's. I held that opinion long before she posted her video and I've never watched her stream.

[Supersnow845]

Do people genuinely think we prefer sitting here on the forums being disappointed rather than playing the game

I want to be playing the game, not arguing on the forums about the lack of content, but due to this arguing on the forums is about the only content in the game and that’s why I agree with the streamers

My old forum logs got deleted in 2021 when I fused my legacy account into my new account but combining the two you could track basically exactly where I felt the game didn’t have enough content, because I would come to the forums to fill the gap, I’d honestly rather be playing

[Boblawblah]

Do people genuinely think we prefer sitting here on the forums being disappointed rather than playing the game

I want to be playing the game, not arguing on the forums about the lack of content, but due to this arguing on the forums is about the only content in the game and that’s why I agree with the streamers

My old forum logs got deleted in 2021 when I fused my legacy account into my new account but combining the two you could track basically exactly where I felt the game didn’t have enough content, because I would come to the forums to fill the gap, I’d honestly rather be playing

Are you only subbed because you have a house then? Not judging, just curious.