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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    And ? I'm just posting my opinion, which is the same as her opinion ? By the way this is a recent video posted today (literally less than an hour ago) so it counts as news as well. If you don't like it just don't click on it. It's my opinion, take it or leave it, it's that simple really, Capiche ?
    So why didn't you just post it in your own words instead of linking a youtubers video. Did you think that by doing this it would lend you some kind of credibility, or that there were people on this board who didn't think similarly because there are number of them who make their opinion known loudly and frequently. I doubt this was some kind of sincere attempt to talk about facets of the game you are unsatisfied with and more about putting up a video on an alt account that you feel will stir up the forum in some way.
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  2. #262
    Player FenyxRising's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    So why didn't you just post it in your own words instead of linking a youtubers video. Did you think that by doing this it would lend you some kind of credibility, or that there were people on this board who didn't think similarly because there are number of them who make their opinion known loudly and frequently. I doubt this was some kind of sincere attempt to talk about facets of the game you are unsatisfied with and more about putting up a video on an alt account that you feel will stir up the forum in some way.
    Have you ever heard of sharing links ? Sharing a news article you read, or a Youtube video you found ?
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  3. #263
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    What's funny is this opinion isn't unique to Zelpa. Even the likes of Mr. Happy and Mizzteq have been critical of Endwalker. Which is downright unheard from either one of them in the past. Happy's repeatedly mention the relic being a huge disappointment among other things and Mizzteq outright admitted she's completely lost interest, albeit partly due to how poorly her Savage group was but also citing how stale the formula has become. You then have two highly prolific WoW streamers in Naguura and AnnaFuchsia who quit after being repeatedly and incessantly harassed for not prioritizing the story or liking it to the extent people thought they should. Both are known for being highly positive streamers too. So you can't dismiss this as a LimitMax situation.

    At some point, you can't keep dismissing every little bit of criticism as a minority. It isn't like these streamers all suddenly woke up one morning and decided "Ya know, FFXIV sucks." Xenosys literally has a video of him crying on stream because of the sheer impact FFXIV's had on his life, and how touched he was when Yoshida commented on his channel directly to him. That hasn't stopped him from being critical.

    But maybe this is all just a massive Titanman conspiracy theory lol
    Apparently the forums members that are disliking streamers even more then ever after zepla and other streamers have recently started heavily criticizing instead of being overly happy gamers that overhype the game seem to think there criticisms are attacking the playerbase and are a part of titanmens grand scheme of game wide domination. People who once love zepla for being dismissive towards criticism and saying how perfect the game was and how wrong it was to criticize the game like some forumers do are suddenly turning on her for daring to criticize the game. Even people like zepla has breaking points and seems her and other streamers have reached there breaking points with endwalkers patches. No amount of "just wait it might get better" is going to change the fact that we have waited and things haven't got better with this expansions patches.
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    Last edited by Nebelheim; 09-04-2023 at 03:50 AM.

  4. #264
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    No amount of "just wait it might get better"
    yea this philosophy never made any sense to me, but its been here since ARR so i never questioned it.
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  5. #265
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebelheim View Post
    People who once love zepla for being dismissive towards criticism and saying how perfect the game was and how wrong it was to criticize the game like some forumers do are suddenly turning on her for daring to criticize the game.
    This is the outcome I'm expecting, provided it's actually happening at all. Without any "proof" to back it up (outside of the forums), I can only speculate. I just know the player base, and I can usually predict where things will go.
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  6. #266
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    This is the outcome I'm expecting, provided it's actually happening at all. Without any "proof" to back it up (outside of the forums), I can only speculate. I just know the player base, and I can usually predict where things will go.
    It wouldn't surprise me if some of her fans turned on her for expressing criticism for the one video she made on endwalkers considering some people in this thread felt attacked by her video. Her video wasn't even negative and had valid points but some people would probably see this one video as negative and stop watching her. Its like people expect zepla to always be her positive self then the moment she makes a video criticizing endwalkers people act like there being attacked and victimized because she did a video that she isn't known for doing since she always remains positive.
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    Last edited by Nebelheim; 09-04-2023 at 04:12 AM.

  7. #267
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    FF16 getting two DLC, yoshi P will be busy
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  8. #268
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    What's funny is this opinion isn't unique to Zelpa. Even the likes of Mr. Happy and Mizzteq have been critical of Endwalker. Which is downright unheard from either one of them in the past. Happy's repeatedly mention the relic being a huge disappointment among other things and Mizzteq outright admitted she's completely lost interest, albeit partly due to how poorly her Savage group was but also citing how stale the formula has become. You then have two highly prolific WoW streamers in Naguura and AnnaFuchsia who quit after being repeatedly and incessantly harassed for not prioritizing the story or liking it to the extent people thought they should. Both are known for being highly positive streamers too. So you can't dismiss this as a LimitMax situation.

    At some point, you can't keep dismissing every little bit of criticism as a minority. It isn't like these streamers all suddenly woke up one morning and decided "Ya know, FFXIV sucks." Xenosys literally has a video of him crying on stream because of the sheer impact FFXIV's had on his life, and how touched he was when Yoshida commented on his channel directly to him. That hasn't stopped him from being critical.

    If you like Endwalker, then more power to you. A lot of people find it divisive at best. Which is fine. We're all entitled to our opinions. Just as you're welcome to love EW, others are welcome to be critical of it.

    Or maybe this is all just a massive Titanman conspiracy theory lmao
    I had no idea that’s why naguura stopped streaming the game. She’s an incredibly good player and I was disappointed to see she went back to wow full time.

    This community man.
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  9. #269
    Player RosaliaDLB's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ValkyrieL View Post
    FF16 getting two DLC, yoshi P will be busy
    I remember when people said Yoshi P would focus on XIV once FF16 was done

    good times, was a good joke tbh

    https://www.dexerto.com/final-fantas...eiled-2276532/

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    I had no idea that’s why naguura stopped streaming the game. She’s an incredibly good player and I was disappointed to see she went back to wow full time.

    This community man.
    #GCBTW
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  10. #270
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    The tags made me laugh.

    Not really sure what to say. I share the same sentiments for the most part, but I also fail to see what this changes. She is the biggest youtuber/streamer for the game, but this game doesn't have a lot of big youtubers/streamers to begin with. I doubt SE really cares about what she has to say that much.

    And in a way I like that about the game. Don't really want e-celebrities getting special treatment, even if we share opinions.
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