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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    She addresses that in the first minute or so. Her concerns remain even after taking a break...
    Then her break was either not long enough or she has moved on from FF14 but hasn't accepted that yet. People change and she's clearly trying to expand out of FF14 for her persona and content.

    With how much time she has put into FF14, she has more than made up for the costs a thousandfold. I don't see how any game can be expected to keep someone, who has done everything and put thousands of hours into, engaged forever.

    FF14 has no reason to make drastic changes when what they've done has worked out so well for them for the vast majority whom are far more casual than Zep is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Then her break was either not long enough or she has moved on from FF14 but hasn't accepted that yet. People change and she's clearly trying to expand out of FF14 for her persona and content.

    With how much time she has put into FF14, she has more than made up for the costs a thousandfold. I don't see how any game can be expected to keep someone, who has done everything and put thousands of hours into, engaged forever.

    FF14 has no reason to make drastic changes when what they've done has worked out so well for them for the vast majority whom are far more casual than Zep is.
    Streamer and everyone with criticism towards the game : "The game has issues"

    The community : no SHE has issues, the game is perfect !
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    Streamer and everyone with criticism towards the game : "The game has issues"

    The community : no SHE has issues, the game is perfect !
    Never said that. Game isn't perfect, but it clearly did something right if she poured thousands of hours into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Never said that. Game isn't perfect, but it clearly did something right if she poured thousands of hours into it.
    Perhaps one day people like you will start to understand that "just take a break looool" does not make things any better, the complaints are still there, the game wont change, you will come back and have the exact same issues yet again, even if you took a break for a year, you'll have maybe 2 weeks of content at best, yay I guess ? Is that really that impressive ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Or... shocking possibility! The game has actual issues that are causing her (and others) to be dissatisfied with it.

    She's apparently making another video on the 'casual' content being lacking too later, so look forward to that.
    Nah, it's obviously us that have issues right ? It couldnt be the game, it cant beeeeeeeeeeeee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaD View Post
    Perhaps one day people like you will start to understand that "just take a break looool" does not make things any better, the complaints are still there, the game wont change, you will come back and have the exact same issues yet again, even if you took a break for a year, you'll have maybe 2 weeks of content at best, yay I guess ? Is that really that impressive ?



    Nah, it's obviously us that have issues right ? It couldnt be the game, it cant beeeeeeeeeeeee!
    "People like you"?

    Do you even read before you post? Such a rude, offensive individual that you are.

    My advice is that you should just leave FF14 if you're that dissatisfied over it as the game will not bend over to your whims when you're the severe minority and are spiteful over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    "People like you"?

    Do you even read before you post? Such a rude, offensive individual that you are.

    My advice is that you should just leave FF14 if you're that dissatisfied over it as the game will not bend over to your whims when you're the severe minority and are spiteful over it.
    This dismissive passive aggressive take on any criticism of the game is literally the epitome of “GCBTW” and why people backhandedly scoff at the community in this game.

    I don’t understand why some people are so aggressively complacent that SE and CBU3 are so infallible that we must consume everything they create as gods gift to MMOs and be happy that is what we get.

    Most people complaining agree with you that the game is at least some level of fun at its core. That doesn’t make the game immune from criticism especially when people will take the time to put criticism into a more coherent thought than “GAME SUCK”. Well thought out and more in depth criticisms like Zeplas (can be from anyone, not just big content creators) should be welcomed into the community. The player base should never become complacent with the state of the game.

    It’s ironic that this critical feedback got us from 1.0 to 2.0 and now some people seem like we are never allowed to complain about the state of the game ever again. It’s also wildly annoying too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    FF14 has no reason to make drastic changes when what they've done has worked out so well for them for the vast majority whom are far more casual than Zep is.
    As a super casual who took a decent sized break from the game as well, I still have a lot of the same complaints. Thankfully there is the moogle tomestone event to keep me occupied outside of the daily roulettes and I missed my friends so I can hang out with them again. I imagine if I hadn't been a casual player for years I probably would say I have a lot of things to do, but because I have been playing for years I have done a lot of the older content that I wanted to do and am just floating around in EW without much of a goal or anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Never said that. Game isn't perfect, but it clearly did something right if she poured thousands of hours into it.
    And I agree to an extent, there is thousands of hours of things to do, the issue is that EW doesn't have that like some of the previous expansions did. I think that is the point of the argument is that there isn't the same repeatability or reason to log in frequently like we had in previous expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Then her break was either not long enough or she has moved on from FF14 but hasn't accepted that yet. People change and she's clearly trying to expand out of FF14 for her persona and content.

    With how much time she has put into FF14, she has more than made up for the costs a thousandfold. I don't see how any game can be expected to keep someone, who has done everything and put thousands of hours into, engaged forever.

    FF14 has no reason to make drastic changes when what they've done has worked out so well for them for the vast majority whom are far more casual than Zep is.
    Or... shocking possibility! The game has actual issues that are causing her (and others) to be dissatisfied with it.

    She's apparently making another video on the 'casual' content being lacking too later, so look forward to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Or... shocking possibility! The game has actual issues that are causing her (and others) to be dissatisfied with it.

    She's apparently making another video on the 'casual' content being lacking too later, so look forward to that.
    Okay...? Much of what she's complaining about will not be changed as that's not the type of game FF14 is nor pretended to be. She's trying to push FF14 to be more like WoW which will lead to FOMO and grinding.

    Nah, I don't plan to give her a view. It's clear from her past videos that she's lost the passion for FF14 and is more focused on expanding outwards. Good on her. She's free to do that, but I already have other content creators to watch who already did that and succeeded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Okay...? Much of what she's complaining about will not be changed as that's not the type of game FF14 is nor pretended to be. She's trying to push FF14 to be more like WoW which will lead to FOMO and grinding.

    Nah, I don't plan to give her a view. It's clear from her past videos that she's lost the passion for FF14 and is more focused on expanding outwards. Good on her. She's free to do that, but I already have other content creators to watch who already did that and succeeded.
    "lost the passion for ffxiv" = she dares complain about the game

    at least be honest with yourself

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    "People like you"?

    Do you even read before you post? Such a rude, offensive individual that you are.

    My advice is that you should just leave FF14 if you're that dissatisfied over it as the game will not bend over to your whims when you're the severe minority and are spiteful over it.
    People like you is putting it nicely.
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