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  1. #3121
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Yesterday I had an alt get CT yet again on roulette, and noticed the mnk had really low hp. I mean REALLY low. Turns out they had ironworks on the right side but 26 and below on the left. When I pointed it out to them after they got one-shot by a couple aoes, they put on level 30 leather gear...checking them revealed they had multiple crafters at 90, and they said they didn't have time to get gear.

    And people wonder why I'm a salty healer.
    If I see that I just don't bother to raise/heal them. Taking the time to patch up trash is DPS loss.
    (6)
    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  2. #3122
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 50
    You know what's actually irritating to deal with as a tank? People complaining in raids that you're stance off. I'm sorry but if I see another tank with stance on I'm going to let them have it. We're not going to play the game of me ripping aggro from them and the boss getting spun when they voke. If there's adds I'll stance up, if they die I'll stance up.

    Case in point I'm giving this PLD all my TBNs and they still eat the dirt. I have the boss voked + stanced up before anyone takes an auto but some other dirt muncher who died to mechs earlier is crying about it. I hold boss for a bit as PLD gets up, stance off when they voke. Crying ensues again. So I stance up and I proceeded to rip aggro from the boss 4 times even with shirking. I have some colorful words that I cannot speak here that I would like to do to that BRD.
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  3. #3123
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    At that point if you were still stealing ( I guess wrong word to use cause you were putting work in ) aggro that easily with you trying as hard as you can to NOT steal it...you should have just been "No. I'm MT now".

    If they provoke the boss you just provoke it right back. Your provoke timers are identical so you would never have to worry about it.

    Taking the aggro and being MT would have been easier work than trying your hardest that they keep the aggro. You were obviously the better tank.
    (3)
    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  4. #3124
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    You know what's actually irritating to deal with as a tank? People complaining in raids that you're stance off. I'm sorry but if I see another tank with stance on I'm going to let them have it. We're not going to play the game of me ripping aggro from them and the boss getting spun when they voke. If there's adds I'll stance up, if they die I'll stance up.
    This is my approach to tanking as well. I don't participate in tank wars. If their fragile ego requires being the center of attention at all times, then they can have at it. I want no part in it. However, I will turn my stance on to generate some hate for about 15-20 seconds just to make sure that, if the MT does die, it goes right to me instead. I will also attempt to rectify a situation if the MT isn't handling the boss properly. I hate stepping on anyone's toes, but sometimes you just kind of have to.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 09-01-2023 at 05:29 AM.
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  5. #3125
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    SannaR's Avatar
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I don't know why my co-healer chose to keep on resing this one dps in a P9 run. The guy more often than not kept on running into the bad cause you know melee up time bro. They would also end up dead soon after being raised as well. I know they were a returner, but that doesn't excuse behaving like a moth that sees a bright light. I don't know why melee and normally it's a reaper have problems with doing the mechanics in the normal Pandeamonium raids. As I used to get the same thing happen in P4 and P5. Even on bosses where it's very hard to have no uptime unless they disappear or become untargetable. The guy also just looked like they weren't even using a lot of their kit. Yes I healed them for the short time they'd be alive for.
    (1)

  6. #3126
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    SannaR's Avatar
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    This is my approach to tanking as well. I don't participate in tank wars. If their fragile ego requires being the center of attention at all times, then they can have at it. I want no part in it. However, I will turn my stance on to generate some hate for about 15-20 seconds just to make sure that, if the MT does die, it goes right to me instead. I will also attempt to rectify a situation if the MT isn't handling the boss properly. I hate stepping on anyone's toes, but sometimes you just kind of have to.
    That's how I tank with some variation. I let the MT gain enough threat before slapping my stance on. I try not to MT cause either I get the I must be the center of attention tanks, a tank that thinks voke is part of their normal rotation , or if I don't get into a MT fight my healers end up either not realizing I'm MT or barely healing me.

    Why the rare time that I do end up having to be the tank for an entire run I grumble and worry the whole run. Like an Aglia run I had where the other two tanks didn't even try to get hate after a dps pulled Byrgot and he started ping ponging around the dps. I was expecting to get dead due to lack of heals or to need to heal myself. If not the bosses starting to eat dps if I did somehow die during a fight and the other two still refusing to put their stance on.
    (4)

  7. #3127
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    SquishyPlushie's Avatar
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    Howdy Meowdy
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Just ran the entire Great Gubal dungeon without a tank.

    I healed our two dps.

    Dynamis queues are so slow that it never backfilled, as the tank left at the start during load in and we still finished with it not filled in.




    Mob pack aggro being rng on who grabs it kinda keeps it crispy though.

    (4)
    Last edited by SquishyPlushie; 09-02-2023 at 04:13 AM. Reason: meow

  8. #3128
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    EgilTheStressedMage's Avatar
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    Egil Vairemont
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    Jenova
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    WE GO TOGETHER!
    *t rated doomslayer noises*
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  9. #3129
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    Denji's Avatar
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    Character
    Daddy Milkers
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by SquishyPlushie View Post
    Just ran the entire Great Gubal dungeon without a tank.

    I healed our two dps.

    Dynamis queues are so slow that it never backfilled, as the tank left at the start during load in and we still finished with it not filled in.




    Mob pack aggro being rng on who grabs it kinda keeps it crispy though.

    at least as a whm (assuming you haven't already spammed it) you can pop a couple aoe heals to pull the threat off them, holy spam and then spam cure II on yourself w/presence of mind while popping all your cds when stun no longer works. i feel like the other healers it's like "welp, time to die".
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  10. #3130
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    Anonemoose's Avatar
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    Eveanna Manolin
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Had a Hrothgar in my expert roulette today. I feel sick and my day is ruined.
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