Remove Praetorium

[LuckShance]

Honestly, I'm not opposed to removing Prae from Mentor Roulette. How many of the people you queue with in Praetorium are from the Mentor Roulette? Would the health of MSQ Duty Finder really die if Mentor Roulette no longer took them as an option?

While I'm inclined to agree with the idea that being a mentor and doing mentor roulette means you're signing up for the good and the bad of Duty Finder, I don't think the world would end if Praetorium was no longer in Mentor Roulette.

Aside from that though, I really want to keep MSQ Roulette the way it is, if for no other reason than I really appreciate the rewards. All I gotta do is watch some YouTube on the side monitor for a while and I get a ton of XP and tomes every day? Yeah, don't take that away from me please.

[Colt47]

So the problem is that it's a story heavy instance that ideally you'd only run once, but they also made it a group activity which means there has to be people queuing for it to even be able to do it. Truth be told it should have been a one shot thing like the final fight of end walker, or any of the other solo duties that players encounter in the game.

It really does say something when people don't even want to do the place when a moogle tome event has it as a promotional area to run and Praetorium has been a thing that comes up almost yearly.

[Venjenz]

2. It is one of the easiest method for receiving Mog Treasure tomestones, as it grants more of them per instance. Want something that requires 50 tomestones? Run 8 instances of MSQ roulette vs. 16 for those instances that grant 2 or 3 tomestones each.

The real truth is most players don't need to queue for the MSQ Roulette at all. There are plenty of other ways to obtain XP.

Having just done the quick grind for the Nightmare whistle, we figured out that speed running Sunken Temple, you can do 4-5 runs in the same time as one run of Praetorium. That results in 12-15 Mog stones in the same amount of time that Praetorium gives 7, no cutscenes to watch, all action.

I reran it the other day by choice just because it had the best Poetic reward for my time, and I actually wanted to practice the fight since it has changed so much since I last played like four years ago. But that said, outside of the MSQ requirement, people like me trying to relearn the game, or the kind folks doing mentor roulettes to help us sprouts...not sure why anyone would run Praetorium more than once.

[Jokerz_93]

Honestly, SE could just get rid of the MSQ roulette.
It takes more than 20 minutes.
At least 30 it last, but for me this isn’t the problem nor the unskipable cutscenes.
Prae, Mer e Ultima are the only duties within the MSQ out 5 expac.
This should make ppl reflect about the why.
Instead of having a good old chunk amount of exp content, where you basically run afk full of boring cutscenes, couldn’t be better having that said exp distributed into others roulettes?
Instead of having one lev (all story dungeon) one alliance, one normal, one 50/etc (useless) you could have two lev (ARR/HW and SB/SHB/EW) two alliance (ARR/HW and SB/SHB/EW) two normal and a 50/60 and a 70/80.
I know, probably it will took more time to gain exp than running Prae (15/20 mins more) but still you can PLAY this game in a much more variant way.

Now days asking to have something different to do feels like you are demand the moon.
It’s fine for this game to say “we want to respect your free time” and this should also include player’s GAME PLAY TIME.

Besides everything, still I think that every games has their own genre and their own archeotypes and not all the ppl fit to play with them.
An MMO should take your time away…it’s like wanting to play a competive match and wanting to win every time.
If you haven’t enough time to dedicate ti an MMO, simply this is not your meal. Easy enough.
But no one cares beside what they cares so rip., just skip this.

[rxantos]

The scenes were skippable. Until people started vote kicking people watching the scenes. On an important part of the story.

You may see this as the a-hole tax. If people where not a-holes, the scenes would still be skippable.

[george357]

have fun holding your breath waiting for this to happen.

[MsMisato]

Can we just remove it in the dailies/duties/mentor roulette? Why do people need to suffer this "duty". It's a LONG cutscene, with tiny bits of duty in between. If people want to re-watch/relive Praetorium, they can use the Unending Journey. Noone should be shoved cutscenes to their faces. Let Praetorium in duty support or a solo duty.

If the goal is to help someone with MSQ, why not add a roulette that forces you to come in a dungeon where someone is new to an MSQ trial/dungeon? That's still Main Scenario roulette, technically. Anything is better than getting Praetorium. At least Ultima Weapon trial and Castrum Mediranium only has one cutscenes in between battles.

simply don't don't do it. not that hard.

[Tulshe]

Praetorium is absurdly long. It take 30 minutes to complete due to cutscenes. I get it, it's important to the story, but the story can be told in different ways. Why not turn the battles with Nero and Gaius into trials and everything in between into solo duties? This way all long cutscenes will be watched solo by firstcomers, then the fights with other players, ending cutscenes can be watched again "solo" as old players are free to leave after boss is dead.

[Monokhrom]

Either don’t do msq roulette or go in with a pre-made so you can skip the cutscenes. Quitting the game and loading back in saves a shocking amount of time.

[Arohk]

Either don’t do msq roulette or go in with a pre-made so you can skip the cutscenes. Quitting the game and loading back in saves a shocking amount of time.

Okay lets repreat one mroe time, very slowly so even the last one gets it

You get Praetorium in "MENTOR" Roulette, lets repeat again M-E-N-T-O-R Roulette.