Remove Praetorium

[Arohk]

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Same response. Don't do MSQ roulette if it bothers you.

i don't do MSQ roulette, i do mentor roulette, get that into your head at some point-

[dspguy]

No one is forced to watch those cutscenes. They are forced to play on your screen. The cutscenes have a definitive length. Make yourself a cup of coffee, clean the house, do some exercises, read the news, watch 4-5 minutes of something on Netflix. Whatever.

[Jojoya]

Look at it this way - if they made the cutscenes skippable since they can be done with Duty Support, they would roll them into the 50/60/70/80 roulette and remove the MSQ roulette altogether.

Is that what you really want?

[KatiaRelanah]

It just baffles me how (veteran) people are only worried about how it affects THEM, when the entire point of the MSQ roulette (roulettes in general, to be sure, but especially MSQR) is to support players who don't have a friend group or whatever to play through the game with them... And then they're mad at the AUDACITY of these filthy new players maybe actually caring enough about the story to wanna watch the cutscenes?

I dunno who needs to hear this, but 9 times out of 10, maybe 10/10 (idk if the matchmaking will just select a random dungeon 4 players queued up have unlocked if all 4 pick roulette without someone in need?), ANY roulette is essentially you signing up, sight unseen, for a party leader-to-be who has queued up for a specific dungeon - first clear, rerunning it manually for exp or relics or whatever else, etc. With that in mind, you're there at the behest of/in support of the person who picked the duty. Are they a new player who really wants to watch the cutscenes and go read all the lore interactables? Well, it's their party (literally) so you support them doing so. And if you're not comfortable with these pace-slowing behaviors, don't queue up for roulettes.

The bonuses exist PRECISELY BECAUSE they are incentivizing you, the experienced player with plenty of other stuff you could do, to spend your time instead helping someone do a specific duty. If these rewards didn't exist, then experienced players running less-than-endgame content would fall off a cliff, in turn locking many newbies out of progression through the game. Very much a "screw you, I got mine" mentality that would have adverse effects on the incoming population of the game.

[tsuchii]

It just baffles me how (veteran) people are only worried about how it affects THEM, when the entire point of the MSQ roulette (roulettes in general, to be sure, but especially MSQR) is to support players who don't have a friend group or whatever to play through the game with them... And then they're mad at the AUDACITY of these filthy new players maybe actually caring enough about the story to wanna watch the cutscenes?

I dunno who needs to hear this, but 9 times out of 10, maybe 10/10 (idk if the matchmaking will just select a random dungeon 4 players queued up have unlocked if all 4 pick roulette without someone in need?), ANY roulette is essentially you signing up, sight unseen, for a party leader-to-be who has queued up for a specific dungeon - first clear, rerunning it manually for exp or relics or whatever else, etc. With that in mind, you're there at the behest of/in support of the person who picked the duty. Are they a new player who really wants to watch the cutscenes and go read all the lore interactables? Well, it's their party (literally) so you support them doing so. And if you're not comfortable with these pace-slowing behaviors, don't queue up for roulettes.

The bonuses exist PRECISELY BECAUSE they are incentivizing you, the experienced player with plenty of other stuff you could do, to spend your time instead helping someone do a specific duty. If these rewards didn't exist, then experienced players running less-than-endgame content would fall off a cliff, in turn locking many newbies out of progression through the game. Very much a "screw you, I got mine" mentality that would have adverse effects on the incoming population of the game.

Except that they don't have to be locked out of it. It could be ENTIRELY removed and exclusive to solo duty. Noone genuinely likes doing Prae. If they tell you, they are lying. It's not content, it's not gaming, it's a waste of time, rewatching cutscenes forced to my face.

It's not screw you, I got mine mentality when there are ALTERNATIVES.

[Amenara]

Except that they don't have to be locked out of it. It could be ENTIRELY removed and exclusive to solo duty. Noone genuinely likes doing Prae. If they tell you, they are lying. It's not content, it's not gaming, it's a waste of time, rewatching cutscenes forced to my face.

It's not screw you, I got mine mentality when there are ALTERNATIVES.

I prefer Prae over the other two to be honest. Sounds like the easy answer is to stop doing MSQ roulette if you feel so strongly about not getting Prae.

[Toutatis]

Prae is fine. It’s about 20 minutes, not anywhere as long as it was, the daily gives a lot of tomes and XP. That XP is useful, particularly when levelling a job between lvls 50-70 where there isn’t lots to do. When there’s a tomestone event, it also gives decent rewards with a fast queue (the only thing better for that event is a premade party of Blue mages). I don’t mind the cutscenes as the tradeoff is pretty decent.

Prae is key to the MSQ and new players shouldn’t be forced to go watch cutscenes at the inn because op just wants to be done with his mentor roulette ASAP.

[Arohk]

Prae is fine. It’s about 20 minutes, not anywhere as long as it was, the daily gives a lot of tomes and XP. That XP is useful, particularly when levelling a job between lvls 50-70 where there isn’t lots to do. When there’s a tomestone event, it also gives decent rewards with a fast queue (the only thing better for that event is a premade party of Blue mages). I don’t mind the cutscenes as the tradeoff is pretty decent.

You don't get any of these in Mentor roulette, which was the point of the discussion btw.
I'd say the other two dungeons are....fine~ but Praetorium is still terrible to get over and over.

[DPZ2]

You don't get any of these in Mentor roulette, which was the point of the discussion btw.
I'd say the other two dungeons are....fine~ but Praetorium is still terrible to get over and over.

You may have been focused on mentor roulette, but, in the words of the Original Post: "Can we just remove it in the dailies/duties/mentor roulette?"

Pretty much everyone except you has been focusing on why the inconvenience is fine for what you get in return. You're the only one in the thread who specifically mentioned problems getting it in Mentor roulette.

[Toutatis]

You don't get any of these in Mentor roulette, which was the point of the discussion btw.

There are some tomes for the mentor roulette and there are always tomes for events.

Also, this is a key dungeon for people doing their story. Mentor roulette is for support and filling. The former takes precedence over mentors grinding for the mount. If Prae pops, it’s because there is demand. Besides there’s quick and brainless Guildhests in Mentor roulette to balance it out (and a somewhat high chance to get one when queuing as dps at certain hours).

As pointed out above, OP wasn’t exclusively talking about mentor roulette either.