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    Daeriion_Aeradiir's Avatar
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    Daeriion Aeradiir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    What’s the point of nerfing old relic content any further than it already has been, it’s just a glam farm at this point

    If you don’t want to do the books in the form they are in then don’t do the zeta relics
    For the same reason they intentionally went out of their way to do things like update old savage raids to drop coffers, even in fights you could zerg in 1 minute so RNG on drops wasnt that much of an issue, or how they spent time completely reworking many MSQ-finale ARR instances (Cape westwind, Castrum, Prae, etc) when roulettes were making sure those instances stayed populated anyway to make sure they were never MSQ walls - just because its old content doesn't mean bad design from expansions past can't be updated to provide a better QoL experience for those who come after.

    In a grind like the atma books, having objectives that are completely out of the player's hands and completely subjected to the server's whims is bad design; it's just an artificial wall. Especially when your only option to "mitigate" it is to tediously and meticulously hop from one server, going through multiple teleports and menuing to the next blindly praying it spawned somewhere.

    A way to force procc certain FATEs when you have a book would help eliminate a tedious blemish on what is a fine set of grindy-ish objectives.
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    Tatanpa Nononpa
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    …or how they spent time completely reworking many MSQ-finale ARR instances (Cape westwind, Castrum, Prae, etc) when roulettes were making sure those instances stayed populated anyway to make sure they were never MSQ walls - just because its old content doesn't mean bad design from expansions past can't be updated to provide a better QoL experience for those who come after.



    A way to force procc certain FATEs when you have a book would help eliminate a tedious blemish on what is a fine set of grindy-ish objectives.
    I think that the old Castrum and Prae were better designed than the current versions. They had actual character, whereas the current versions are more or less Ye Olde Generic Dungeon. (What the old versions lacked was a reasonable ilvl sync so that the party couldn't just zerg rush everything. Oddy enough, the new versions do have an ilvl sync.)

    Similarly, there's at least one FATE required by the books that would lose its entire character if you could simply proc it whenever you wanted.
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