No more Island Sanctuary

[Absurdity]

I mean I played WoD the entire expansion. The similarities between it and Islands isn't much at all.

As did I and I'm seeing more similarities than I would like. In my previous post I even forgot to include the copious amounts of "do nothing while you wait for timers to tick down on some building", be that for building, upgrading or resource generation.

Although I guess that feature could've just as easily been taken from any terrible mobile or facebook game.

[Atelier-Bagur]

As did I and I'm seeing more similarities than I would like. In my previous post I even forgot to include the copious amounts of "do nothing while you wait for timers to tick down on some building", be that for building, upgrading or resource generation.

Although I guess that feature could've just as easily been taken from any terrible mobile or facebook game.

Again the issue here is that IS isnt part of endgame power progression. Which was the real kicker for why Garrisons ultimately failed as part of the endgame where players were forced to do it. This anaolgy with WoD only half works with the argument presented.

But in terms of contentdesign then yeah IS is just a worse version of garrisons. But its saving grace is that its just a passing optional thing and it should stay that way.

It does need more substantial depth and activity besides factory management though like put some various mini-games or something

[caffe_macchiato]

This is the worst side content to date since Stormblood. It is boring and shallow. Very disappointed that they intend to make more of this in 7.0.

But...it lets you play other games! All you have to do is log in once a week, plug in some junk into the calendar, and then log out again! It's perfect. You can even set it all up on Tuesday right before your mandatory reclears, and then you won't have to log in again at all for the rest of the week. Isn't that great? It lets you fully enjoy other games. For just $13 a month, you can enjoy all of the other games you want (sold separately).

Stormblood forced you to play the game...GROSS!

[Theodric]

I quite liked garrisons. They fed into the other aspects of the game rather nicely and when I pick up a game I want to actually play it and work towards greater goals. My main complaint was the lack of customisation and that the Alliance aesthetics were far more appealing than what the Horde ended up being stuck with.

As for what could be done in order to make Island Sanctuary more engaging? There could be treasure that washes ashore from time to time and deep in the recently added cave there could be enemies to fight for interesting rewards.

[Iscah]

Theres one huge critical difference behind garrissons and Island Sanctuary that you missed.

It's not tied to any power progression so most players who already hated the content can continue to ignore it.

It's not tied to power progression as such, but if the True Endgame (glamour) is your thing, they have filled it with basically all of this expansion cycle's glamours besides the crafted/treasure-map ones.

Compared to last cycle where we had the Firmament as our major source of glamours, and those came with the choice of earning it yourself or letting someone else do it and purchasing the end result, it is tedious that this time you have no choice but to level it up yourself (per character you play with) if you want any of the outfits.

[Winterfang]

It's not tied to power progression as such, but if the True Endgame (glamour) is your thing, they have filled it with basically all of this expansion cycle's glamours besides the crafted/treasure-map ones.

Compared to last cycle where we had the Firmament as our major source of glamours, and those came with the choice of earning it yourself or letting someone else do it and purchasing the end result, it is tedious that this time you have no choice but to level it up yourself (per character you play with) if you want any of the outfits.

That's what they did for V&C. It's lackluster content that misses the mark, but at least the majority (Admittedly not all) of the rewards are purchasable from other players.
And doing the IS very badly will eventually still get you the rewards. It's essentially a very very low effort timegate for those glam pieces.
Not defending the IS, just saying that I can see why the Glam pieces from the Island aren't purchasable in the first place.

[Soge01]

I quite liked garrisons. They fed into the other aspects of the game rather nicely and when I pick up a game I want to actually play it and work towards greater goals. My main complaint was the lack of customisation and that the Alliance aesthetics were far more appealing than what the Horde ended up being stuck with.

As for what could be done in order to make Island Sanctuary more engaging? There could be treasure that washes ashore from time to time and deep in the recently added cave there could be enemies to fight for interesting rewards.

Island Sanctuary Exploration for looking into those caves and Island Sanctuary Defense, for when monsters stsrt creeping out of said caves and you need to defend your land againat them. :3

[Heh]

I just want the option to teleport directly to your island sanctuary base

[Absurdity]

Again the issue here is that IS isnt part of endgame power progression. Which was the real kicker for why Garrisons ultimately failed as part of the endgame where players were forced to do it. This anaolgy with WoD only half works with the argument presented.

I guess it depends on what you consider power progression. IS isn't directly tied into gear progression but it does give you easy access to gathering/crafting materia and rare dyes which sell relatively well.

[Jojoya]

There are a lot of similarities, but Garrisons were tired to the main story. They also made two gathering professions useless for the expansion. They are also used by the anti-housing faction of the playerbase as "evidence" that housing is bad for the community.

As limited as it is, the Island Sweatshop is a hundred times more customizable than Garrisons.

That said it really fails as a "sanctuary". It's pretty clear that was Tataru's idea. It's a business.

What bugs me is that it's supposed to be a test for resettling Limsans and La Nosceas. Why set things up so mammets get used instead of having settlers wandering around a village and doing the work?

They should have ditched Tataru and the mammets, replaced them with people NPCs then had us report to Merlwyb (or any of the other city state leaders, maybe change it depending on the character's Grand Company).

But evidently the Japanese players think it's cute to be ordering mammets to work for them (or someone posted a few weeks after IS was first released).

Tell me you didn't play WoD without saying you didn't play WoD basically.

It's not that far off.

Yes, I did play WoD (though I didn't buy until 6.2 was about to release). I was also one of the closed beta testers (why I bought it so late - beta was a steaming pile). I saw way more of Garrisons than I wanted.

I mean I played WoD the entire expansion. The similarities between it and Islands isn't much at all.

So you were just AFKing in your Garrison not doing anything? Or did you finally do something with it when shipyard missions ended up required to get the legendary ring?

As for what could be done in order to make Island Sanctuary more engaging? There could be treasure that washes ashore from time to time and deep in the recently added cave there could be enemies to fight for interesting rewards.

Now that you mention that, wasn't one of the original teasers for IS supposed to be randomly spawning items to discover? I can remember that being mentioned and got the impression that it would include crafting materials.

While we ended up with that sort of via the rare creatures, it's really not quite the same as randomly running around the island when you have some free time to see if you can find valuable materials. Seems like they took that away from players and gave it to the mammets.