Technically, why does RDM's Vercure heal more than SMN's Physick?

[SaberMaxwell]

RDM's vercure scales off of INT while SMN's scales off of MND.

The devs will tell you SCH jank is why SMN physick scales off of MND but at this point its vestigial.

[Rongway]

RDM's vercure scales off of INT while SMN's scales off of MND.

That's all it is.

You won't notice it at low levels because caster gear is shared with healers until just before Lv50, so casters have the same amount of mind as healers from Lv01 to Lv45-Lv49. But when SMN starts wearing exclusively caster gear the power of Physick immediately drops to almost nothing because all their mind points over naked base mind disappear.

[LilimoLimomo]

RDM's vercure scales off of INT while SMN's scales off of MND.

I had heard this might be the case. Is there anything in the game itself that would clue a player into this? Or is this just one of those things that you can only learn by going outside the game (from someone who datamined, a developer who explained that's the way it is, etc)?

[Shurrikhan]

I had heard this might be the case. Is there anything in the game itself that would clue a player into this? Or is this just one of those things that you can only learn by going outside the game (from someone who datamined, a developer who explained that's the way it is, etc)?

The latter. Like figuring out how much your secondary stats actually do, how periodic potency even works (in terms of total potency), what skills can and cannot be queued, and so much else...

[Arohk]

Because the game Devs don't care to fix it, even after reworking Summoner they didnt bother.
It scales of Mind because it is a left over ability from Arcanist.

[Cabalabob]

I had heard this might be the case. Is there anything in the game itself that would clue a player into this? Or is this just one of those things that you can only learn by going outside the game (from someone who datamined, a developer who explained that's the way it is, etc)?

Basically in ARR your spells and abilities actually scaled off appropriate stats. Attack magic scaled off INT, healing magic scaled off MND, melee skills scaled off STR and ranged skills scaled off DEX.

As time went on they phased all of that out. NIN was added and scaled off DEX instead of STR, PLD and DRK got attack spells that scaled off STR instead of INT, healers were updated so their attack magic scaled off MND instead of INT and when RDM was added vercure scaled off INT instead of MND.

Physick is now the last remnant of the old system where a skill scaled off something other than the jobs main stat (even though the SMN version of physick is now a completely separate skill from the SCH version so there’s no reason for it to be that way).

This topic comes up pretty much every expansion, people asking for it to be scaled off INT, people asking for it to be upgraded into a new skill via a trait, or people just asking for it to be outright removed.

I believe the last time the devs talked about it was when RDM was added, people asked in the Q&A if “now that RDM exists and has an INT based cure, can SMN be updated so physick scales off INT too?”. Dev response was essentially “we don’t want to give something to SMN just because RDM has it”.

[Flana]

RDM's vercure scales off of INT while SMN's scales off of MND.

The devs will tell you SCH jank is why SMN physick scales off of MND but at this point its vestigial.

The incredibly stupid thing is that this isn't even the case. As soon as you put on a Scholar job stone you get a different Scholar-exclusive version of Physick. There is literally no reason for ACN/SMN Physick to scale to Mind, it has zero impact on Scholar. Like all things SMN its just absolutely baffling anyone thought this was a good idea.

[Raikai]

RDM's vercure scales off of INT while SMN's scales off of MND.

The devs will tell you SCH jank is why SMN physick scales off of MND but at this point its vestigial.

This is actually not true, both SMN and SCH physicks are different spell instances, as one can check in the Garlandtools website.

In fact, they purposedly created a SMN physick scaling with MND back in Stormblood while the previous one remained the SCH's one. I know that because I remember when I changed to SMN back then the Physick spell was greyed out (as in removed) and I had to drag it again from the spellbook to my hotbars.

The reason why Physick scales with MND seems to be an actual choice rather than a consequence of something.