People Enjoy hard Games

[Ivtrix]

That's the problem with casuals, at least in FFXIV, they want it their way and only their way, they cant accept that people want challenging content because then they feel like they "HAVE" to do it (yet it provides basically nothing to do so, aside from a small ilevel increase), they just have to get the same thing as everybody, else they will cry about it endlessly on the forums about how they are treated differently.

The difficulty of the content in itself is the reason why I refuse to do the content FFXIV has to offer and I would rather do content in WoW, and use FFXIV for the social aspect and housing, content in FFXIV is an absolute joke, a slow paced complete bore with 0 job uniqueness and no "cool" spells, a 2 minutes meta that reinforces even more the bore effect of it, and with a more than mediocre difficulty that is barely equal to HC in WoW, and I am sure I am not the only one to think that way, the casual side of this game is happy, but the side that actually wants a challenge and wants to play the game is not.

I don’t raid mythic anymore and havnt since legion, so I can’t speak on current difficulty but still currently raid heroic and idk, I am not sure I agree 100% with your sentiment. I find different enjoyment in raiding on both but ultimate on content especially the new ones are far and above anything I did in wow during mop-legion when I was most active in mythic raiding.

But idk I find raiding in this game to still be a lot of fun despite the changes to the meta (it is a sour taste but not one to completely ruin my enjoyment). It’s out of passion that the game is solid fundamentally but could be improved upon that gets players like myself heated up and itching for improvement.

As for the first statement on the casual issue, idk it’s hard. Everyone obviously in it for their own personal enjoyment and experiences but people have convinced themselves that the status quo is going to change when in theory it shouldn’t and thing will be no different day to day for the casual player. Convincing people of it is the difficult issue.

[SophiaDL]

I don’t raid mythic anymore and havnt since legion, so I can’t speak on current difficulty but still currently raid heroic and idk, I am not sure I agree 100% with your sentiment. I find different enjoyment in raiding on both but ultimate on content especially the new ones are far and above anything I did in wow during mop-legion when I was most active in mythic raiding.

But idk I find raiding in this game to still be a lot of fun despite the changes to the meta (it is a sour taste but not one to completely ruin my enjoyment). It’s out of passion that the game is solid fundamentally but could be improved upon that gets players like myself heated up and itching for improvement.

As for the first statement on the casual issue, idk it’s hard. Everyone obviously in it for their own personal enjoyment and experiences but people have convinced themselves that the status quo is going to change when in theory it shouldn’t and thing will be no different day to day for the casual player. Convincing people of it is the difficult issue.

Ultimate content is extremely rare though as in the pacing in between one and the next, so even if you do compare it to WoW, it's very different by design, ultimates in FFXIV are an extremely "limited" ressource, while mythic raiding happens every raid tier, so even if it might be true that ultimate difficulty has a higher skill ceiling/difficulty in general, it's also.. very scarce, which makes it unfun, because in my opinion you can do one fight only so many times until eventually you get fed up by it, WoW refreshes it every raid tier, FFXIV does not.

Regarding the casual issue, the problem is that they dont want things to change, they dont want to understand, they just dont want the difficulty to exist, because lets be honest here, FFXIV players are entitled, they want everything, but also dont want to do any effort to get it, they know if something get added, they'll want it the second it comes out and will have to do the effort to get it, or just complain that they cant get it because its too hard. We both know which one they'll pick, or at least the majority will pick.