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  1. #51
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    Amenara's Avatar
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Viper Lv 100
    Finally something to grind out. Would love for it to have lasted a bit longer but it will give me something to do in September at least.
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  2. #52
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Loud Jungle
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    "From the beginning" was ambiguous as heck. The beginning of ... what?

    A prepatch event leading up to the actual major patch is much smarter than a patch event that does not start until the patch is released.

    Making it concurrent (which is what you indicate you meant here) with the patch release does not make it "long-term content". It actually interferes with the patch content itself.
    Opinions.
    Yours is not better than mine though.

    What's vague about?
    Overall, moogle tomes; old content, turns out to be better long term content than island sanctuary, variant dungeon, and the snorefest raids. They should start every patch with moogle tomes from the beginning.
    Or is it that you got caught? Trying wiggle yourself out of your nonsense claim isn't helping you here.

    FFXIV used to release the bulk of its patch content initially, at the start of the patch cycle (ARR and HW); widely considered the best expansions of the game so far; with SB in the discussion as well. So whether releasing it all at the beginning or not actually enhances my side of that opinion compared to yours.

    Adding it at the start or near the start of patches ensures that people have something to do after the 30 minute-2 hour msq, while making them return to variant/deep dungeon and/or relics at the end of patch cycle. Not my fault they decided to make relics a 30 minute affair this in endwalker.
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  3. #53
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    My FC and I are ecstatic about this because it feels like we're not farming tomes but rather we're being rewarded for playing almost any content we want appropriately.
    This is rather nice since I can just run AR for the day and still get something. And it's nice to get tomes for my weekly Panda normal runs. It will be my lower level characters where I'll have to grind.
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  4. #54
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    Dal S'ta
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    Bard Lv 97
    So, why the shade Amnmaat? Your additional text was much clearer than the initial post.

    Did I hit a nerve where you felt you had to strike back? It did you no favors.
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  5. #55
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    So, why the shade Amnmaat? Your additional text was much clearer than the initial post.

    Did I hit a nerve where you felt you had to strike back? It did you no favors.
    So now that you lost the argument all you have left is ad hominem?
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    So now that you lost the argument all you have left is ad hominem?
    This: "Or is it that you got caught? Trying wiggle yourself out of your nonsense claim isn't helping you here." is the very definition of ad hominem: attack the person rather than the argument.

    It was unnecessary to your actual reasoning that followed.

    This: I pointed out that this is how I read it the first time. You replied with actual words that described what you meant to say the first time, along with an ad hominem attack that added nothing to your comment except shade.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Opinions.
    Yours is not better than mine though.
    You have won no argument. As you said yourself in that reply, before you apparently decided snark was an argument.
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  7. #57
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    Jumpshot Tryhard
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    So many emotes. Well, l don't have the blue bird minion Yet. I guess l will spam dead end. Haven't played healer in higher level pve for ages
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  8. #58
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    Wait, Why aren't cc giving out tomestone?
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  9. #59
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    This: "Or is it that you got caught? Trying wiggle yourself out of your nonsense claim isn't helping you here." is the very definition of ad hominem: attack the person rather than the argument.

    It was unnecessary to your actual reasoning that followed.

    This: I pointed out that this is how I read it the first time. You replied with actual words that described what you meant to say the first time, along with an ad hominem attack that added nothing to your comment except shade.



    You have won no argument. As you said yourself in that reply, before you apparently decided snark was an argument.
    Explaining what you were doing and how you were wrong isn't ad hominem. Moreover, my reply to you had a full breakdown of how my opinion on the matter were backed up by hard evidence. But you don't want to discuss that anymore; I'll leave you to your emotions.

    Simple, you got caught not knowing how to read. Moogle tomes is better content than all the trash ffxiv has in endwalker and would have been better at the start of patches. Not my fault xiv's relic content at the end of patches amounts to 1 day of tome farm.
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  10. #60
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    DPZ2's Avatar
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    Dal S'ta
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    Bard Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Explaining what you were doing and how you were wrong isn't ad hominem.
    Ad hominem fallacy is an attempt to discredit someone’s argument by personally attacking them. Instead of discussing the argument itself, criticism is directed toward the opponent’s character, which is irrelevant to the discussion.

    A difference of opinion is not met with "what you were doing and how you were wrong". You've just described the ignoble art of Flaming superbly.

    Regardless, I have less respect for any future opinion you make on these forums regardless of whether they match my own or not. Congratulations.
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