WARDS

[TheVedis]

whoops my bad i forgot that the purpose of retainers is for them to just sit in wards and look pretty, instead of actually selling things

better chance of selling something in grid or LL then if they were not even placed anywhere at all

[Wolfie]

better chance of selling something in grid or LL then if they were not even placed anywhere at all

Better chance setting up your own bazaar on your character in Ul'dah, or shouting. The only people who use the MW in Limsa and Gridania are people who just started the game.

Or better yet, do what I did. Be among the first to log in after maintenance, set up a random worthless item for max price on both retainers, and then you have a secured 18 slots in the MW until the next maintenance.

[bobbygunz]

Better chance setting up your own bazaar on your character in Ul'dah, or shouting. The only people who use the MW in Limsa and Gridania are people who just started the game.

Or better yet, do what I did. Be among the first to log in after maintenance, set up a random worthless item for max price on both retainers, and then you have a secured 18 slots in the MW until the next maintenance.

Yeah guys, all you have to do is go back in time and set up your retainers after last maintenance. Simple, really.

[Wolfie]

Yeah guys, all you have to do is go back in time and set up your retainers after last maintenance. Simple, really.

I'm sorry the market ward system is total s**t. I've been telling people about it since the beta forums. No amount of "improvement" will fix it and it needs to be scrapped as a whole. I called out the problems it had with scalability like a year ago.

The only way you can sell things now after server mergers is to be among the first people to sign in after maintenance and 'reserve' your spots in the wards. If you don't do this, you don't get to sell items.

[Rina-ran]

Better chance setting up your own bazaar on your character in Ul'dah, or shouting. The only people who use the MW in Limsa and Gridania are people who just started the game.

Or better yet, do what I did. Be among the first to log in after maintenance, set up a random worthless item for max price on both retainers, and then you have a secured 18 slots in the MW until the next maintenance.

It's that kind of pig headed stubborness that keeps everyone in Uldah in the first place. Will people get over it, and slowly move to Grid and LL? Maybe... I've seen Grid grow a little and even found items I've needed there.

If you WANT to set up your retainer, you can go there. Your chances of selling stuff goes up at the very laest 1% than the 0% chance you have of selling anything on a retainer not being put out. OH! AND~ you can continue to set up your own bazaar and shout! Imagine that?

On to the idea of auction houses...I didn't play XI long enough to use it much. But wasn't there some kind of problem with auction houses? I'm seriously asking, not cutting down the idea.

[Wolfie]

It's that kind of pig headed stubborness that keeps everyone in Uldah in the first place. Will people get over it, and slowly move to Grid and LL? Maybe... I've seen Grid grow a little and even found items I've needed there.

If you WANT to set up your retainer, you can go there. Your chances of selling stuff goes up at the very laest 1% than the 0% chance you have of selling anything on a retainer not being put out. OH! AND~ you can continue to set up your own bazaar and shout! Imagine that?

On to the idea of auction houses...I didn't play XI long enough to use it much. But wasn't there some kind of problem with auction houses? I'm seriously asking, not cutting down the idea.

Sorry I'm stubborn, but me moving to Gridania would mean that I will instantly lose out on a huge amount of customers, 10,000 gil, and party shouts. There's not even any "trade off" here, it's just simply me losing out on everything with no gain. Why would I ever want to do that, when I can just exploit the crappy system we have now and ensure that everything I need is in Ul'dah?

[Rina-ran]

Sorry I'm stubborn, but me moving to Gridania would mean that I will instantly lose out on a huge amount of customers, 10,000 gil, and party shouts. There's not even any "trade off" here, it's just simply me losing out on everything with no gain. Why would I ever want to do that, when I can just exploit the crappy system we have now and ensure that everything I need is in Ul'dah?

If you can't set up your retainer in Uldah in the first place, what customers are you losing? Your retainer isn't even set up! 10k I can understand, though that's an amount easily made back. There's no way around the airship prices if you're constantly low on Anima. And party shouts...set up retainer and just go back to Uldah? It's just the way things are for now.

This is simply if you really want to set up your retainer for a chance of selling whatever during the off chance you just might not be one of the first people in the MW. 'Exploit' all you want. But if you don't make it, you don't make it, and then you can choose to set up your retainer elsewhere.

[TheVedis]

If you can't set up your retainer in Uldah in the first place, what customers are you losing? Your retainer isn't even set up! 10k I can understand, though that's an amount easily made back. There's no way around the airship prices if you're constantly low on Anima. And party shouts...set up retainer and just go back to Uldah? It's just the way things are for now.

This is simply if you really want to set up your retainer for a chance of selling whatever during the off chance you just might not be one of the first people in the MW. 'Exploit' all you want. But if you don't make it, you don't make it, and then you can choose to set up your retainer elsewhere.

thats what i told him, he doesnt want to listen

a retainer which "might sell stuff if people look in other cities" is better then no retainer at all

and people do buy stuff in other cities, i bought stuff in grid last night cuz i was there and people had what i wanted for sale


id strongly suggest especialy putting stuff up for the company turn ins for grid and LL each week cuz people probly will specificaly look for those there if they are buying them to turn in

[Rina-ran]

thats what i told him, he doesnt want to listen

a retainer which "might sell stuff if people look in other cities" is better then no retainer at all

and people do buy stuff in other cities, i bought stuff in grid last night cuz i was there and people had what i wanted for sale


id strongly suggest especialy putting stuff up for the company turn ins for grid and LL each week cuz people probly will specificaly look for those there if they are buying them to turn in

Yes, I see that, and I've been agreeing with what you've been trying to say to them. I'd rather go with the 1% someone might stop by Grid and buy something off my retainer than to have all those items just stuffed away with no chance. I'm not going to bother shouting to sell items...I'd rather be out and doing stuff. Hence I just want my retainer set up (Standing pretty is better than not standing. And yes, he looks very pretty.)

And with the inn down in Uldah so much, sometimes the MW in LL and Grid are the first place people go to when they log in. Just for a "quick check" before they leave for Uldah. Heck, between Ifrit and Moogle fights I sometimes stop by and I see people doing the same. Just for the chance there might be food they want or SB items. I know I've purchased SB items at Grid right after farming tapers.

Grid should be the next expanded MW. Cause right now that's where you go after Ifrit and Moogle and maybe even more soon.

[Wolfie]

If you can't set up your retainer in Uldah in the first place, what customers are you losing? Your retainer isn't even set up! 10k I can understand, though that's an amount easily made back. There's no way around the airship prices if you're constantly low on Anima. And party shouts...set up retainer and just go back to Uldah? It's just the way things are for now.

This is simply if you really want to set up your retainer for a chance of selling whatever during the off chance you just might not be one of the first people in the MW. 'Exploit' all you want. But if you don't make it, you don't make it, and then you can choose to set up your retainer elsewhere.

Yeah, you're right. If you don't get it set up in Ul'dah, you have no customers anyway. You're not losing anything, but you're not gaining anything either. You're at rock bottom.