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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    Imagine not getting the fact that it was a joke to use the thavnarian set. Woosh over your head eh ? even wrote under it "this man is handsome but come on SE" clearly showing that it was a joke

    Also for the rest of your post yeah idk, you're just being your usual you, not much I can say
    And you being your normal self looking for things to be negative about. I get some players hate like the cash shop but until you convince all players in every game to stop buying from them, it's going to be a part of gaming. Most players don't seem to care enough about how they spend their money for that to ever happen. Why wasting effort on a battle that you can only lose?

    Hope you don't have to continue switching to new forum avatars. We may not get along but you should be allowed to speak your mind like everyone else.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    And you being your normal self looking for things to be negative about. I get some players hate like the cash shop but until you convince all players in every game to stop buying from them, it's going to be a part of gaming. Most players don't seem to care enough about how they spend their money for that to ever happen. Why wasting effort on a battle that you can only lose?

    Hope you don't have to continue switching to new forum avatars. We may not get along but you should be allowed to speak your mind like everyone else.
    Sadly its an FFXIV thing to not be able to speak your mind, its an entire mentality really that you should be following the herd, I aint part of that, so I didnt expect anything else, it's the same in the game too, you better not be agaisnt what is being said or risk getting banned, as for looking at things to be negative about, I have always been vehemently agaisnt the mogstation, and even more since the amazing street attire, some stuff could be in the game in form of grinds or anything else, but lately it's almost been only mogstation purchases.
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  3. #103
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    If the cash shop is being updated more regularly than the actual game then I think that's a clear issue in itself. One of the most common complaints in regards to the game has been the lack of content with staying power and meaningful rewards. FFXIV has a lot of focus on optional merchandise in general, even putting aside the cash shop itself. They plan months ahead and have a lot of merchandise on the Square Enix store already on waiting lists.

    It's something I don't really see with other MMO's.

    As it stands, we're looking at almost a year until Dawntrail launches and the established trend for 'meaty' patch content has been for it to come later on in the patch cycle, meaning that those of us waiting for something along the lines of Bozja and Eureka are very likely looking at an almost two year wait assuming we even get any at all as part of Dawntrail.
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  4. #104
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    I think the outfit is hideous, just like most of the more modern clothing in the game. HOWEVER, I wish they would put the effort into designing new gear for the actual game instead of giving us recolors of stuff from older expansions and then releasing more mog station items.
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    Sadly its an FFXIV thing to not be able to speak your mind, its an entire mentality really that you should be following the herd, I aint part of that, so I didnt expect anything else, it's the same in the game too, you better not be agaisnt what is being said or risk getting banned
    Your post just contradicts itself lol
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Ironically, this appears to be a modded version of that dress. The armlets are heavily altered and the top has been changed as well.
    It's not even that, it's a drawing from back when the Thavnarian Bustier set was still gender-lock. Someone drew both this and a different "male-version" with a male Elezen wearing it to show how it could be implemented. (❁´▽`❁)*✲゚*
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Your post just contradicts itself lol
    There's no contradiction, but thank you for your input
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    It isn't a problem whatsoever. SE is a company. A company exists to make money. The items are entirely optional. I don't care about mogstation and rarely spend money on the mogstation. There is also a metric ton of incredible glamour in this game. The endless tears folk of these forums just like to focus on the negative. They don't like to look at the full picture because the truth hurts.
    Goes to show you have no idea what you're talking about.
    Horse armour says hello.

    And making money is not the same as making money hand over first.

    Oh and we already pay for a product to play, pay monthly, pay for each expansion, pay for more storage capacity (that'll never get better as to fleece you more) and now we reached a point where raid mounts are a joke compared to what's being sold at the same time.

    It's not enough to make money. It'll never be enough untill they've made all the money in the universe. That's AAA (and capitalism) for you.

    Why are you shilling for a multi billion [currency] company again while working against your best interests as a consumer? Kinda weird. At least just buy it and don't defend it.
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    the catsuits from Sorrows of Werlyt
    Those are in the game already. The catsuits are the Late Allagan melee gear and their other uniform is the mage gear.


    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I wish they would put the effort into designing new gear for the actual game instead of giving us recolors of stuff from older expansions and then releasing more mog station items.
    As I wrote earlier, the balance of how much gear they give us is still much more in favour of new designs going into the game rather than Mog Station.

    In patch 6.4 or thereabouts we got:
    - new tomestone sets
    - new raid sets
    - new crafted sets
    - new pajama glamour set (technically x3 but single model)
    - new Mount Rokkon glamour sets
    - new Phoenix Riser suit
    - recoloured dungeon set

    ...and somehow multiple people look at that and construe it as "we just get old recoloured gear in the game now while the new stuff goes to Mog Station".
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    If the cash shop is being updated more regularly than the actual game then I think that's a clear issue in itself. One of the most common complaints in regards to the game has been the lack of content with staying power and meaningful rewards. FFXIV has a lot of focus on optional merchandise in general, even putting aside the cash shop itself. They plan months ahead and have a lot of merchandise on the Square Enix store already on waiting lists.
    Making a few glamour sets, a mount and an emote takes far less time than producing hours of content and dozens if not hundreds of items to go with that content, especially when those making the former have no responsibilities for helping with the latter. It doesn't hurt that the KR cash shop team is getting paid by the KR game publisher to create the items.

    Create a list of all the optional items in the cash shop and it's not going to come close to the number of items in game even if you do a release date comparison. It's really easy to forget what we are getting in game when it doesn't get any special attention outside of maybe a quick peek at concept art during a Live Letter while the items going to the cash shop get datamined and shared by the dataminers through social media far in advance of their JP/NA/EU release not to mention the Lodestone post announcing the sale.

    Square Enix is engaging in capitalism. Most of us posting here on the EN forums live in capitalist countries and earn our income because of capitalism. It makes the complaints about the cash shop look somewhat silly, especially considering I doubt there is MMO of any type out there lacking a cash shop these days.

    As I said to Stormpeaks earlier, as long as there are people willing to spend the money to get the extras to enjoy in game there will be cash shops. If you can find some way to get people to stop buying off the cash shop, maybe games will stop putting items there. Otherwise it's just a losing battle.

    As the saying goes, we have to learn to pick our battles. I'd rather fight a battle I have a chance at winning than one that is already lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Those are in the game already. The catsuits are the Late Allagan melee gear and their other uniform is the mage gear.
    Thanks for the info. I don't PvP so that's how I missed them.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 08-18-2023 at 09:15 PM.

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