Square Enix, it's time to come clean about your plans for the future

[Aword3213]

The fat Moogle thinks 20,000 Accursed Hoards is content.

The amusement park will rot and wither with no customers and the fat Moogle will still scream that there's entertainment.

Oh I won’t worry about that.

We still have a customer most loyal to support the evil MMO overlord Square Enix till the end of time, that customer being you.

Doom preachers are always the last one to die in each and every era.

[Aword3213]

If he's posting for the entertainment, then we might as well do the same.

Rules for thee but not for me

It's been proven multiple times recently. The evidence hasn't gone cold yet

[Nebelheim]

Oh I won’t worry about that.

We still have a customer most loyal to support the evil MMO overlord Square Enix till the end of time, that customer being you.

Doom preachers are always the last one to die in each and every era.

FF14 will someday be just like FF11 square will have a new online game and only the most loyal will stay and only have a small playerbase when the game has reached its eventual maintenance mode and only receive small monthly patches for job balance and a monthly rotation of unreal trials. And there new game will be the new poster child once a majority of people from ff14 move on to whatever new mmo they make then ff14 will be forgotten about just like ff11.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Which MMORPGs would that be? WoW doesn't anymore, though it is slower to gear as a casual than as a Mythic raider. Players with the interest shouldn't have difficulty getting a 15 done once a week.

When I hardcore raided, it was in EQ2 - a game where skill at healing mattered. The raid gear I got there pretty much trivialized all non-raid content, and I was able to use this gear to carry through healing undergeared / casual friends who otherwise had a hard time clearing the casual dungeons (which were harder than they are in this game).

My raid-only gear did all kinds of unique things, outside just higher base stats. Things like casting a heal could proc an additional heal for free. Or buffing how much my buffs did. My heals overall were stronger, faster, more efficient, and with gear would proc special effects for free.

My heal parses were night and day over a casual.

Maybe games were right to move away from such gearing differences, but I felt it made my time feel more worthwhile than 10 more gearscore here.

[Shinkuno]

I do remember game outlets reporting, shortly prior to Endwalker, that internal roadmap was extended as far as 9.0.

Yoshi is a PR person when appearing in public / interviews. People like you need to get that through their thick skull. He will lie if that gets people hyped. You can just look up the amount of things YoshiP said that ended up not happening. No gaming company will plan 8 years into the future, becuase if the next 4 years the game dies out, what you gonna do? Throw money away? LOL

[Nebelheim]

Yoshi is a PR person when appearing in public / interviews. People like you need to get that through their thick skull. He will lie if that gets people hyped. You can just look up the amount of things YoshiP said that ended up not happening. No gaming company will plan 8 years into the future, becuase if the next 4 years the game dies out, what you gonna do? Throw money away? LOL

Yeah i think it makes bad business sense to plan 8-10 years in advance. Yoship saying he has plans for the next 10 years is pr speak to keep people hopeful. But with mmo's you never know how the game or market will be that far in the future.

[Raven2014]

Yoshi is a PR person when appearing in public / interviews. People like you need to get that through their thick skull. He will lie if that gets people hyped. You can just look up the amount of things YoshiP said that ended up not happening. No gaming company will plan 8 years into the future, becuase if the next 4 years the game dies out, what you gonna do? Throw money away? LOL

Yeah i think it makes bad business sense to plan 8-10 years in advance. Yoship saying he has plans for the next 10 years is pr speak to keep people hopeful. But with mmo's you never know how the game or market will be that far in the future.

While small businesses may work on a year to year planning, or at most 2 or 3 years. Most institution and corroboration will always have something call a "strategic" plan for at least 5 years. The place I'm working at both have a short term 5-years strategic plan, and a long term 10-years strategic plan. If you have paid intention to companies like Google, Facebook, Apple, Intel .etc. you will regular hear them talking about their "strategic" plan, and they will be all ways on the order of 6 or more years. In another word, what Yoshi said is completely "normal" in the actual working world once you get above certain size.

Of course, having a plan that far doesn't mean it's rigid, that's why you have the term "robust planning". For example, I just finished a meeting today where we evaluated where we are in our 3rd years of the current 5 years plan. We also reviewed where we are currently at in respect of our 10 years goal. With the COVID hit, we admit it will be difficult to reach all the goals we set for the 10 years, but we still acknowledge that the direction we want to move toward to, it's just the matter of adjust expectation and changing the method of getting there.

And simply put, a large company with large staffs need that kind of planing to keep the workflow coherent and "focus". I don't know how you interpret Yoshi's word, but it's not like he meant SE is start putting money in the bank to make the game last another 10 years no matter what. It simply mean he and his team has an "idea" of where they want to take the story and the game into the future, maybe how it will pan out and end. That means his staff know that whatever work they're doing in 7.0, 8.0 will be not just about those expansion, but also about laying foundation and lead to a certain conclusion in 10.0. That's how you can develop a "coherent" story over time. An example is G'ahara Tia, a character who was seal away in the original game and brought back as the central character nine years later.

Again, samething about real life workplace, the strategic plan is to let the staffs know that whatever they're working on and accomplish this year is also a milestone toward the long term goal, it means their works have a focus. Which is something absolutely important in larger organizations.


And lastly, if you still want to by cynical about his words, then there is actually a physical proof for you: SE just upgrade all the data centers hardware this years, that's NOT the kind of investment you would make if you already plan an exit in the near future. That doesn't mean SE will keep the light on even if everything goes wrong in the future, but right now, both their word and action does indicate they have a long term commitment in FF14.

[Atelier-Bagur]

You literally need BiS gear in every single raid tier. 6.1 Ultimate required 6.05 BiS gear. 6.25 Criterion Savage and 6.3 Ultimate required 6.21 BiS gear. 6.45 Criterion Savage requires 6.41 BiS gear.

Once in a blue moon? That's literally every single raid tier this expansion.

Please, you got filtered and can't even clear a single raid tier, you have no business talking about raids. Go back to complaining about relics.

Ok so we're getting an Ultimate this patch right? Is Criterion Savage still gonna be run for its great rewards? (we dont know if the devs listened to the reward feedback with this upcoming Variant/Criterion dungeon)

You said this yourself, Criterion Savages are pointless to run because there's nothing substantial to gain from them. It was a failure of a content for the high-end raiders. Are you seriously gonna say that people are gonna be worrying about getting BiS for THAT!? I mean I'm glad to be proven wrong come 6.5 if they gave it something more meaningful to do em, but until then that content is D-E-A-D. Pointless to do and may as well pretend that it doesnt exist. Its was most of the savager raiders did for Sildih and Rokkon.

[Fyrebrand]

FF14 will someday be just like FF11 square will have a new online game and only the most loyal will stay and only have a small playerbase when the game has reached its eventual maintenance mode and only receive small monthly patches for job balance and a monthly rotation of unreal trials. And there new game will be the new poster child once a majority of people from ff14 move on to whatever new mmo they make then ff14 will be forgotten about just like ff11.

I don't think anyone here would dispute that this will happen SOME DAY. Nobody thinks FFXIV is going to last literally forever. But OP is acting like the game is already in maintenance mode, and CBU3 is basically not working on anything despite a new expansion being announced a matter of days ago.

I see so much whining about how "white knights" shout down dissent and won't allow criticism of the game, but 90% of the "criticism" is so exaggerated and over the top, it's hard to take it seriously. And that's when it's not an obvious troll post.

Let's keep it down to earth, let's talk that real ish; YoshiP hasn't done anything great since heavensward (maybe stormblood).

I mean, come on, what even is this? Get real.

[Koros]

Ok so we're getting an Ultimate this patch right? Is Criterion Savage still gonna be run for its great rewards? (we dont know if the devs listened to the reward feedback with this upcoming Variant/Criterion dungeon)

You said this yourself, Criterion Savages are pointless to run because there's nothing substantial to gain from them. It was a failure of a content for the high-end raiders. Are you seriously gonna say that people are gonna be worrying about getting BiS for THAT!? I mean I'm glad to be proven wrong come 6.5 if they gave it something more meaningful to do em, but until then that content is D-E-A-D. Pointless to do and may as well pretend that it doesnt exist. Its was most of the savager raiders did for Sildih and Rokkon.

You don't even know a single raider, so why are you even talking about this lmao

You literally have zero awareness of what high-end raiders are doing.

go back to doing the msq