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    Malcolm Varanidae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    You know why more people didn't engage with Cleretic's post? It's because Venat's reasoning has been called into question since EW dropped, and to the people who see through it, the metaphor, and all the other BS it's pretty apparent that she's blowing smoke. Some of her plan she enacts, sure, but a lot of it she immediately contradicts or goes against.

    1. She sides with Hermes in this in his, "fair determination." That's literally aiding and abetting the enemy. She could have given his, Emet's, and Hyth's memory back via The Echo after Zodiark's creation rather safely.

    2. She says she won't give up on man, on us(us being The Ancients). Then she does, pretty much immediately in the Sundering metaphor BS cutscene. Which doesn't even have the balls to show her followers sacrifice themselves to her.

    3. The Amanesis cutscenes weren't about her faction warning the Convocation about Meteion or the true cause of the final days. It was the civil war she brought about over the maligned 3rd Sacrifice, which was a lie she fed her followers as we know now, unless we get new info in 6.5 that changes that ( I don't think we will).

    It's all been addressed before. And it's funny that you always appeal to other people, but never find the quotes yourself. Remember when you tried to appeal to authority with that Tumblr blog and expected your opposition to just sift through an entire blog? You're the one working on faith that the people you agree with are right just because they quote the game. Which, you know, everyone in this forum that you hate quotes the game all the time exactly as it is, often in multiple languages.

    Gonna start calling you Creationist Mal.
    You don't engage with it because it proves you wrong and for whatever reason you can't just say. "We don't like that it was written this way and more should have been done." Yall gotta act like it didn't happen.

    Call me what you wish you're still wrong and that's why you keep deflecting and doing all this name calling. Couldn't be me You just all kinds of wild chief. Real amusing though.

    Stop speculating on what you think could have been done and find something that actually happened that negates Venat's statement. That's what you need to do to prove your point. Which you can't. So what does that make you. A guy who is wrong about the story and has an opinion on how it should have went.

    You mean the blog that just has quotes from the game? I remember posting it and some of you refusing to look at it because it was a tumblr link.

    @above. Chances are good its the set of quotes you thought I was talking about, considering in that very cutscene they decide to summon their own primal with Venat at it's core. We know the debates happened before the battle between the eldest of primals. Again try and keep up. This is what lying to yourself for over a year does I suppose. Again, couldn't be me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    You don't engage with it because it proves you wrong
    This is some epic level cope, my Creationist pal.

    The things that happened that negate Venat's statements, as I told you, and as the game shows are Venat's actions. It's almost as simple as you.
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