Ultimates: Why the dumbing down exists

[Supersnow845]

I might have missed the mark on player complaints, I concede.
But let's talk about how the devs themselves can't seem to create high end content without constantly dumbing down the jobs. That's the real crux of the problem. While 1 Ultimate did indeed exist in Stormblood, that's an anomaly, and it was just 1, as we saw. Square enix gets very sensitive when people says "job balance is so bad, I can't clear this on mch because Bard's unique skills are needed."

Yoship himself told us to play Ultimates if we want challenging content as healers. That's the biggest clue why the jobs are so dumbed down; they're designed around High end duties, most notably Ultimates. Why account for 20 something jobs when we can design 4 tanks to all be the same way? etc

Yoshi p has explicitly said they design around savage and that ultimate exists just because it does

Healers are not a mess because of ultimates

[Amnmaat]

Yoshi p has explicitly said they design around savage and that ultimate exists just because it does

Healers are not a mess because of ultimates

Potatoe, Potatoh.
You're proving my point, friend. I can change the title to "High End Duty" so we don't argue about semantics.

Ultimates and savage share a lot of the game design; ultimates just take longer and have more encounters in one, for the most part. We're just arguing about which brand of soda has more has more sugar in it.

[Supersnow845]

Potatoe, Potatoh.
You're proving my point, friend. I can change the title to "High End Duty" so we don't argue about semantics.

Ultimates and savage share a lot of the game design; ultimates just take longer and have more encounters in one, for the most part. We're just arguing about which brand of soda has more has more sugar in it.

That comment shows you have literally zero idea how ultimate actually works because ultimate isn’t designed like savage

And let’s for a minute say this was an argument about savage (you know what they actually balance against) then high end raiders only care about slight DPS discrepancies because square ripped out party utility, people were totally fine with DPS variance when the alternative was bringing useful utility, you can’t rip out any measurement other than RDPS then complain people are angry that the RDPS difference is 5% when the classes all play the same anyway

Again can I point you to stromblood