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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    I don't care enough to stalk your profile. Also, I don't use the cash shop as I said. If I were to limit myself to playing any recent title that did not have a cash shop, my options would be almost none. I do not engage in the cash shop because I do not support those practices. Everything should be built into the game itself and would have continued to be had players not shown them it was okay to double-dip on them, to nickle and dime them. Or are you telling me you'd rather buy an item out of the cash shop than earn it in game for free?
    I am telling you that a cash shop is inevitable. That is how games structure these days. Engage or don't as you choose. Everyone has their line. Apparently enough people have no problem with it for many games to make one.

    My line has to be when it becomes necessary to engage with the cash shop to have any prayer of success with the game. Fluff items? who cares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    I am telling you that a cash shop is inevitable. That is how games structure these days. Engage or don't as you choose. Everyone has their line. Apparently enough people have no problem with it for many games to make one.

    My line has to be when it becomes necessary to engage with the cash shop to have any prayer of success with the game. Fluff items? who cares.
    You think it's going to remain merely fluff items? Just like when microtransactions were introduced, devs will test the waters gradually to see what they can get away with. They WILL introduce pay-to-win elements. Players will complain all while shelling out the money anyways, and years from now we will be in a pay-to-win landscape instead of the cash shop merely being fluff items. That's where this leads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    You think it's going to remain merely fluff items? Just like when microtransactions were introduced, devs will test the waters gradually to see what they can get away with. They WILL introduce pay-to-win elements. Players will complain all while shelling out the money anyways, and years from now we will be in a pay-to-win landscape instead of the cash shop merely being fluff items. That's where this leads.
    For me at that point my line would be crossed and I would quietly and simply unsub. No fanfare. No grandiose fix this or I am going to leave. No Big I am leaving thread. Until such a time as that happens I plan to enjoy the game and buy the occasional fluff that takes my fancy.

    So your real complaint is about the cash shop and not everything else in your post? You seem to have focused in on cash shop. I will say again, why stick around? You know as well as I do the cash shop is going nowhere. You are quick to tell others to unsub but are quite unwilling to do it yourself at this point.

    I walked away from EA entirely after the EALAND debacle. I won't deal with anything they put out. Where is your line? Some nebulous next expansion thing that might or might not come to pass. Some belief that the cash shop WILL go pay to win that you have no proof of at this moment?

    You have no consistent argument. Telling people to walk away forever now when you have not hit the walk away forever point yourself yet is rather disingenuous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrany View Post
    For me at that point my line would be crossed and I would quietly and simply unsub. No fanfare. No grandiose fix this or I am going to leave. No Big I am leaving thread. Until such a time as that happens I plan to enjoy the game and buy the occasional fluff that takes my fancy.

    So your real complaint is about the cash shop and not everything else in your post? You seem to have focused in on cash shop. I will say again, why stick around? You know as well as I do the cash shop is going nowhere. You are quick to tell others to unsub but are quite unwilling to do it yourself at this point.

    I walked away from EA entirely after the EALAND debacle. I won't deal with anything they put out. Where is your line? Some nebulous next expansion thing that might or might not come to pass. Some belief that the cash shop WILL go pay to win that you have no proof of at this moment?

    You have no consistent argument. Telling people to walk away forever now when you have not hit the walk away forever point yourself yet is rather disingenuous.
    You know what? You're right.



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