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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    What L? I backed up all my claims,
    You backed up ALL your claims?

    You mean when you accused me of moving a goalpost and I pointed out that was the actual conversation so it wasn't a goalpost move? When did you back up that claim?

    When you said there was unanimous agreement that removing Kaiten was bad? When did you back up that claim? You even had to walk it back to "unanimous is just a concept".

    You didn't back up all your claims. You didn't back any of them up in your replies to me. As I shot them down, instead of acknowledging it, you kept bringing up more things - mostly insults and personal attacks - that you also couldn't back up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    And you have yet to provide source. Even if you disagree with everything I say, what's holding you from just linking it? Surely you didn't made this up, did you?
    Because you won't read them in good faith. YOU JUST SAID SO in General:

    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Come on, just link it, I want to have a good laugh about what some theory crafters and guide makers think about job design.
    Why should I bother going through the forums and YouTube videos I've watched and read over THIS LAST YEAR to find the specific links just for you to mock them and discard them? And the point is, it's not even RELEVANT. The point I was making - which you've since conceded while pretending not to - is that there is not unanimous agreement removing Kaiten was bad. I already proved THAT by pointing out someone in General saying so. Even one person technically breaks unanimity. And by you saying it's just a concept, you even admitted that you know it's not a unanimous position.

    MEANING I proved my point and you even admitted it while trying to pretend not to.

    I don't live and breathe Kaiten like you do. Meaning I don't save links to discussions about it with the intent of posting them in random places later. I know Mr Happy mentioned it, I believe Wesk Alber mentioned it, and in any given Reddit thread or non-DPS forum thread here where Kaiten is discussed, there are people saying that it being removed wasn't the worst thing ever and that Kaiten itself wasn't an interesting or enjoyable ability, or wasn't mechanically that great. Most will say the issue is having so much gauge now and nothing to spend it on, leading to over-spam which is boring - a similar argument to SCH with Faerie gauge being useless - but not not that Kaiten should be returned, per se. I already posted you one from General, though. You just ignored that.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Are you a parody account?
    I've never seen so much brainlet drivel with nothing to back anything up in a thread about SAM when you don't even have a 90 SAM while constantly being dead wrong about everything
    You do know the mount is for 2k mentor roulettes and not 2k posts right?
    Are you a parody account?
    I've never seen so much brainlet drivel with nothing to back anything up in a thread about SAM when you don't even have an argument while constantly being dead wrong about everything
    You do know the mount is for 2k mentor roulettes and not 200 posts right?


    In short, Dio, your argument is this:

    You: "There's unanimous agreement!"
    Me: "No there's not."
    You: "YES THERE IS!"
    Me: "No, there's not."
    You: "PROVE IT!"
    Me: <proves it>
    You: "UNANIMITY IS JUST A CONCEPT!! GIVE ME LINKS TO PEOPLE DISAGREEING!!!"
    Me: <quotes people disagreeing>
    You: "DOESN'T COUNT! I NEED LINKS TO VIDEOS AND THEORYCRAFTERS AND STUFF!!"
    Me: "Why? You won't listen to them and you won't accept the argument that you were wrong on it being unanimous agreement..."
    YOU: "POST THEM!!"
    Me: "Again, you're just going to mock or attack them. And I don't live and breath Kaiten so I don't have them bookmarked so would have to take time to find them again."
    You: "POST THEM SO I CAN LAUGH AT THEM!!!"
    Me: "Dude, the argument was whether or not there's unanimous agreement with Kaiten removal being bad, not people trying to give you something to mock."
    You: <post crying memes and (more) ridicule>

    You're arguing in bad faith. FOUR TIMES you've brought up things from outside this thread to discredit me rather than just admit you were wrong.

    And this is how you treat someone...WHO IS AGREEING WITH YOU on bringing Kaiten back!

    You're unhinged.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 08-10-2023 at 12:41 AM. Reason: EDIT for length