I was almost in the mood to play FF14 again

[Spigg]

But it's not unanimous, and there are more than one reason, and there are well thought out counters to it having been removed. /end

Genuinely curious, could you quote some of these counters? Or are you saying counters in support of it being a bad idea it was removed? Almost every single discussion regarding kaiten I've seen has been against it's removal, or at least pointing out how its removal does nothing of substance. The few posts/comments I have seen that are for kaiten removal were pretty obvious rage bait.