Bring Back Relic Weapon Quest Zones

[Supersnow845]

Because that's literally all you do for like 80% of the time in Bozja which is still a huge boring margin. I constantly praise it's only saving graces with its raids but doing Fate Farms is so mundane and boring to get to the fun parts that it's like why even bother designing the zones like this?

How about adding daily quests or have open public dungeons or heck bring back the whole Hyrstmill thing from 1.0 where crafters and combat classes can work together to build resources and help defend bases. Like literally anything besides just Fate Farms in these zones.

Because the players can’t figure out that Bozja isn’t designed to be fate farmed, CE’s don’t spawn based on skirmishes, they spawn based on magitek enemies and they also reward clusters you use for the lost actions people are always complaining they never have enough of

Open dungeons are basically dalriada and CLL, hyrstmill would never work in modern 14 because legacy was a totally different beast with a different structure

Basically Bozja is a victim of people playing it in a suboptimal way then complaining that suboptimal way is boring; you don’t have to sit in the middle of zone 3 of Zadnor and skirmish farm and ignore the rest of the content, if you do that’s on you for not getting everything out of Bozja

This is to say nothing of DRN and DRS who I’ll continue to argue DRS alongside BA are the best content this game has ever gotten (BA loses points for it’s annoying as hell entry system)

[TaleraRistain]

Because the players can’t figure out that Bozja isn’t designed to be fate farmed, CE’s don’t spawn based on skirmishes, they spawn based on magitek enemies and they also reward clusters you use for the lost actions people are always complaining they never have enough of

Open dungeons are basically dalriada and CLL, hyrstmill would never work in modern 14 because legacy was a totally different beast with a different structure

Basically Bozja is a victim of people playing it in a suboptimal way then complaining that suboptimal way is boring; you don’t have to sit in the middle of zone 3 of Zadnor and skirmish farm and ignore the rest of the content, if you do that’s on you for not getting everything out of Bozja

This is to say nothing of DRN and DRS who I’ll continue to argue DRS alongside BA are the best content this game has ever gotten (BA loses points for it’s annoying as hell entry system)

Those magitek enemies don't help you level up, though. You can only level in Skirmishes and CEs. You're talking about someone max level and forgetting the slog to get there, which is mostly going to be Skirmishes and the occasional CE if you can get enough people doing it to succeed.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Loot the frags from the non-magitek mobs to get the essence and lost actions then to make that leveling not a slog.

[Supersnow845]

Those magitek enemies don't help you level up, though. You can only level in Skirmishes and CEs. You're talking about someone max level and forgetting the slog to get there, which is mostly going to be Skirmishes and the occasional CE if you can get enough people doing it to succeed.

Let’s ignore the fact that spawning CE’s helps you level

Not to mention you can pull magitek enemies into existing skirmishes or join cluster farm groups

Again it’s almost like people actively attempt to reduce content to its most boring state then complain it’s boring (see current dungeon design)

[TaleraRistain]

Let’s ignore the fact that spawning CE’s helps you level

Not to mention you can pull magitek enemies into existing skirmishes or join cluster farm groups

Again it’s almost like people actively attempt to reduce content to its most boring state then complain it’s boring (see current dungeon design)

What cluster farm groups? Like I said, you can't just focus on the final zone and people at mettle level 25. There are mettle requirements for the quests that unlock other zones and mettle only comes from Skirmishes and then CEs spawned by Skirmishes. So someone starting fresh right now is going to have a hard time. Last time I went into Southern Front about 8ish pm or so on a weekend there were 3 people in it. But anyone starting fresh is going to have to get through Southern Front first.

[Supersnow845]

What cluster farm groups? Like I said, you can't just focus on the final zone and people at mettle level 25. There are mettle requirements for the quests that unlock other zones and mettle only comes from Skirmishes and then CEs spawned by Skirmishes. So someone starting fresh right now is going to have a hard time. Last time I went into Southern Front about 8ish pm or so on a weekend there were 3 people in it. But anyone starting fresh is going to have to get through Southern Front first.

CE’a don’t spawn off skirmishes this is what you aren’t getting

They spawn off killing magitek, so yes you can level in cluster farm groups