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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    If they're great zones, why do they need to be propped up by the relic? Just let them exist as their own unrelated content.
    This is illogical.

    Very few pieces of content no matter how substantial would struggle to stand on its own two feet without proper incentive. Take CLL, for example. initially, the rewards were nigh on non-existent, and on top of this it gave no experience points. The only people that then ran it were those that needed it for story progression, which bad design. They actually had to go in and add many rewards later on because of the outcry with it

    Would exploratory struggle to stand on its own 2 feet without the incentive of relic or leveling? Probably.

    Is it a bad thing? Not really. - You still have the option to progress the majority of your relic outside of Bozja, and similarly, you could level inside of Bozja. It was optional... People did relics inside there because they preferred progressing them in there, equally, people leveled in there from 71-80, and heck even 81-90 because they wanted to.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    This is illogical.

    Very few pieces of content no matter how substantial would struggle to stand on its own two feet without proper incentive. Take CLL, for example. initially, the rewards were nigh on non-existent, and on top of this it gave no experience points. The only people that then ran it were those that needed it for story progression, which bad design.

    Would exploratory struggle to stand on its own 2 feet without the incentive of relic or leveling? Probably.

    Is it a bad thing? Not really. - You still have the option to progress the majority of your relic outside of Bozja, and similarly, you could level inside of Bozja. It was optional... People did relics inside there because they preferred progressing them in there, equally, people leveled in there from 71-80, and heck even 81-90 because they wanted to.
    Eureka these days has a massive chunk of people in it for the money and ozma over the relics, a lot is still the relics to be fair but if content is chock full of money items that can be an incentive (I have like 15 things worth over a mil on the market board from eureka right now)
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    This is illogical.

    Very few pieces of content no matter how substantial would struggle to stand on its own two feet without proper incentive. Take CLL, for example. initially, the rewards were nigh on non-existent, and on top of this it gave no experience points. The only people that then ran it were those that needed it for story progression, which bad design. They actually had to go in and add many rewards later on because of the outcry with it

    Would exploratory struggle to stand on its own 2 feet without the incentive of relic or leveling? Probably.

    Is it a bad thing? Not really. - You still have the option to progress the majority of your relic outside of Bozja, and similarly, you could level inside of Bozja. It was optional... People did relics inside there because they preferred progressing them in there, equally, people leveled in there from 71-80, and heck even 81-90 because they wanted to.
    They can still be options for progressing the relic from a separate questline. The questline doesn't need to be tied to the zone itself and force people who otherwise wouldn't interact with it into there. Whether you got your updates outside Bozja or not, you still had to do it up to a certain point to progress the storyline. Let them stand on their own with decent rewards and a design that appeals to players who like that content.
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