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  1. #61
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    I have to agree with CK i dont believe the “missing” sword is intentional. It could be they ran out of time and it’s an oversight.. i doubt it but it’s not impossible.

    The sword itself that we do see does not rule out corsair though. I know most people would think of a cutlass or saber when it comes to pirates/corsair, but that is not the only sword used by pirates. Shortswords, rapiers and even Estocs (english tucks) were quite common sights.

    And the latter is what I believe we are looking at. An Estoc. It’s a sort of midpoint between a rapier and a short sword. As far as I know. (I havent checked every rdm and pld in the game yet) we do not have an actual Estoc. Or if we have it’s a one off.

    Now an estoc (if that is what it is) does not rule out mystic knight or spell blade or something of that nature, it also does not rule out corsair. So guess we find out in October. I’m still firmly in corsair camp, but cant rule out entirely mystic knight/ spell blade.
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    Searching the database, it was a one off (sortof. A one off and an upgrade) Byakko's Estoc, a Red Mage weapon.

    Though I don't think that makes it unique enough for an entire weapon set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I fully agree with this, having a "corsair" with such a not-corsair weapon.
    We also barely see the outfit and it is mostly covered by the coat, we only have part of the outfit that is somewhat "corsair like".

    I highly think it's will be somesort of mystic swordman. Mystic Corsair why not, we already have jobs that are mixes between 2 previous job in the series.
    I don't think we'll get a "pure" corsair. What is is going to do, throw rhum at me?
    Come to think of it, Gunbreaker and Dancer were the same case as Reaper and Sage. That would've had to have been right around when they decided to stray from traditional jobs. Now it's just a matter of whether a brush would be too weird a weapon in XIV's universe.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChazNatlo View Post
    Searching the database, it was a one off (sortof. A one off and an upgrade) Byakko's Estoc, a Red Mage weapon.

    Though I don't think that makes it unique enough for an entire weapon set.
    No I imagine much like paladin has several types of one handed swords, so does drk, even sam and ninja, if it is a corsair an estoc would just be one of a few. I imagine different sabers, and cutlasses, etc etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvaire View Post
    My Tin foil (Copium) hat is that TMNT = Artists - artists use brushes - Eastern writing is via brushes - new job is Onmyōji especially as they have appeared in mount rokon in gear (i think) that has not been seen in the game before. If we got this job then the caster would use paper talismans to accomplish their spells. Which would also be a unique weapon for them, (Alongside Bell for Geomancer)

    I don't think its very likley - but its a hope nonetheless.

    For me I really want more eastern themed jobs. Which would also pull into the Ninja vs pirate thing.

    That said, I also think the tshirt is hinting at the melee job in muliple ways and a new t-shirt in the EU fanfest will hint at the caster.

    Usually we get:

    Fan fest 1 - First job hint
    Fan fest 2 - First Job confirmation and second job hint OR Other hint (bugs bunny for viera)
    Fan fest 3 - Second job confirmation
    This is my line of thinking as well, and considering we have teasers for the melee job in the trailer itself, then I'm leaning towards TMNT being a hint towards this Piratey job we're obviously getting.
    Whether or not it is Corsair exactly, or a unique spin on a Corsair/Pirate/Swashbuckler, and to exactly what weapon/s it's using, who knows? But my money is on Cutlass + Pistol, with the hilt of the pistol being the thing that's sticking out from WoL's waist.

    That would mean the TMNT hint is indeed referring to Tortuga Island, along with the connection to Ninja in that it shares scouting gear, and the whole Pirates vs. Ninjas thing.

    I don't think we have anything to go on towards the caster job yet. But with nothing to go on, my bets are still along the lines of an Onmyoji or Ascetic, as Yoshi has said in the past that he'd like to add an eastern caster job. I expect this will be Krile's job, with her new outfit being revealed in the next teaser trailer.
    My dream job would be Geomancer but I think that ship has sailed.

    I very much doubt it would be Green Mage, if only because when Green Mage or Green Magic has appeared in other games, it's simply been a place to slot status magic that doesn't fit elsewhere. Considering that Arcanist and Astrologian pretty much cover all feasible status magic in the game as it is, with BLU mopping up the effects that aren't balanced enough, Green Magic seems a little pointless.
    If it can't have Bio, Petrify, Sleep, Slow, Stop and Haste, then what is it good for?
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    I'm firmly on team corsair, but the sword in the trailer does not sit right with with me.-- mostly because it does not come off as a level 100 artifact weapon for any job really. It looks too vague. It looks like it could be a PLD sword, a RDM sword, or even a scaled-down DRK sword. And I think that's the point.

    A conspiracy theory I have is that it's a placeholder weapon, and they intend to use the job's artifact weapon in the next trailer in October. They wouldn't even have to design a whole new placeholder weapon for the teaser, they could just pull from the designs of one of the level 91-99 leveling weapons for either PLD, RDM or the new job. It could also explain why it appears to be 'missing' from the hero shot at the end. Perhaps it was indeed a mistake when checking to make sure both props work in the shot.

    I also don't think Meteor will be wearing the burlap cloak in the next trailer. He's wearing a coat of similar length underneath the cloak, but I think showing it off now would give away too much. It also calls back to his cloaked look in the Endwalker trailers. He could be wearing a hat so he can still do the face, and ponytail reveal for the hero shot at the end.



    They have made minor, and even major changes to shots with props, and costume physics going from teaser to full trailer in the past so pulling something like this wouldn't be completely out of the question. They literally could be pulling cloak-and-dagger shenanigans in front of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    But with nothing to go on, my bets are still along the lines of an Onmyoji or Ascetic, as Yoshi has said in the past that he'd like to add an eastern caster job. I expect this will be Krile's job, with her new outfit being revealed in the next teaser trailer.
    I kind of expect Krile being the poster girl for the new job too... And I also think that there are heavy hints for it to be Far Easten themed (even though we don't go there, DNC and GNB cases we didn't visit their homelands in the ShB main story either) and most of the themed theories of Pictomancer, Geomancer and Mystic (Onmyoji) can fit there.

    The ONLY thing that strikes me as odd is how Krile, not being Far Eastern related at all, ends up taking the new job's mantle and possibly a soulstone. If that's the case, I hope there's a good heap of narrative behind it and not just a "Oh I found this soulstone in the Sharlayan archives and I want to see how it goes." situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkpaw View Post
    No I imagine much like paladin has several types of one handed swords, so does drk, even sam and ninja, if it is a corsair an estoc would just be one of a few. I imagine different sabers, and cutlasses, etc etc
    Do we have an example of a new post ARR job using a weapon from an earlier job? Because beyond the Estoc, both Cutlasses and Sabers are glad weapons (though both old and not broadly used. Cutlasses are the Maelstrom's glad weapons being Cutlasses and a single level 70 alagan weapon for saber (and Lighting's crossover weapon))

    I assume the likely culprit would be any dueling swords in the pre SB glad weapons.

    Not a deal breaker, earlier I noted that rules are only rules till you break them, but if there were cases of this, it'd help your argument considerably.
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    Caster Onmyoji would be welcomed as a unique identity, the ninjas turtle reference leaning not so much to the ninja concept but the turtle concept...indicating Genbu and the Four Lords. Personally would rather have them flesh out the jobs we already have then introduce new ones but this is par for course by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChazNatlo View Post
    Do we have an example of a new post ARR job using a weapon from an earlier job? Because beyond the Estoc, both Cutlasses and Sabers are glad weapons (though both old and not broadly used. Cutlasses are the Maelstrom's glad weapons being Cutlasses and a single level 70 alagan weapon for saber (and Lighting's crossover weapon))

    I assume the likely culprit would be any dueling swords in the pre SB glad weapons.

    Not a deal breaker, earlier I noted that rules are only rules till you break them, but if there were cases of this, it'd help your argument considerably.
    Not as far as I am aware, but precedent does not exclude the possibility. There are only so many sword types in the world to draw upon. So it would not surprise me if they took a weapon type that has already been used out of necessity.

    After all even in life weapons of a similar style have been used in a multitude of ways by various different types of fighters. There are dozens of schools on how to use a broadsword. And so if they were to take a short sword, which has in this game only been used with a shield, and instead paired it with (for argument's sake) a gun, while it would be the same style of weapon a paladin uses.. the playstyle is vastly different.. much like taking the rapier (a one handed sword) and pairing it with a focus (rdm).

    Additionally, lets represent our fellow Warriors of Light that are predicting Mystic Knight. Imbuing a sword with aether to change the character of the slashes delivered could play vastly differently than a paladin or red mage. So it would not actually surprise me much if they said "oh here's another job that uses a similar style of weapon but they use it very differently so it's a new job."
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