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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    If you'd like play by play proof might i introduce you to the wonderful video that this very thread revolves around? They answer all of this and refute quite literally every single one of your points thus far with in game textual evidence, the very thing you're looking for.
    Sorry, not only is 'nearly two hours' far too much time to ask for me to devote to a timestamp-less video with a clickbait-y, factually tenuous title that tells me nothing of its contents, Lyth managing to dig up at least one of the people who takes credit for the account shows me that this isn't a video made by people speaking in good faith. I'm not inclined to give that much time and attention to someone who applauded an 'improved rewrite' of the story of Endwalker that turned Venat into a serial killer and tried to create a 'good Empire' by putting their self-insert in charge of the Empire, and whose response to people arguing about that was 'diddums'. This is not someone who I can ever have confidence is making arguments in good faith, and won't give them that sort of attention.

    Tehmon is right: there's absolutely nothing 'polarizing' about Venat, any more than any other character, except in this one small subset of the community that echo-chambers themselves. The only places that I've ever seen talk about Venat as 'polarizing' and not 'universally beloved as a complex and tragic character' was exactly the group of official forums posters in the group of pretty clear friends that the poster Lyth found rolled in, and a small cluster of Twitter posters that I suspect might've just been one person with a half-dozen sockpuppets. Everywhere else? Hugely popular character, right up with the more conventional fan-favorites in character polls, popular subject for cosplay (for whatever that means to you, but it's hardly a negative), really any measurement of character fondness and popularity I can think of she's up there next to Emet-Selch. I see more genuine controversy about G'raha Tia than Venat.
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 08-02-2023 at 06:56 PM.