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  1. #41
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    Almost certainly the melee is corsair. There’s evidence from the shirt and so many context clues throughout the trailer and keynote it’s not even really well hidden.

    Why do i say this? It’s pretty easy.

    1. What are things usually associated with pirate folklore? New worlds/lands to explore, usually mention of a City of Gold (El Dorado), almost always in the mesoamerican area. Light armor/clothes. All things very VERY obvious in the trailer and keynote City of Gold is literally a key point of the expac.

    2./ that trailer is the most on point corsair aesthetic ever. They could not be more obvious if they tried.

    3./ granted takes a bit of over analysis. But the spanish word (the language primarily spoken in that mesoamerican area) for turtle (hence the tmnt shirt) is… Tortuga, as in the famous Island of Pirates ( Corsairs)

    4./ this is quite obviously an 11 influenced expansion with the mamool ja taking center stage, so pretty safe bet to say an xi job will show. Like.. Corsair.

    5./ THANCRED IS HOLDING A TREASURE MAP. What do we associste treasure maps with? Oh.. right. Pirates (corsairs)

    6./ Corsairs already exist in ff14 in Limsa Lominsa.

    7./ which may just be fun, we can feel pretty safe in betting the melee will be sharing scouting gear.. and one of the fun tropes around Corsairs is Pirates vs Ninjas.. so could be just a fun nod to that (that is very much in line with this dev teams sense of humor) to make a pirate job just to share gear with ninja.

    As a final note just because they have never rendered something out before does not mean they can not start doing it. Until we have the final trailer we can not know for sure if this is something they’ve done.

    Now the caster.. i got no clue on yet.
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    Turtle in Spanish is Tortuga, the famous pirate island.
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    Reaper was a unique job with a reused weapon and Sage was the inverse. If they add Corsair and/or Relm's job, they'll likely have either a different name or a different weapon.
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    My Tin foil (Copium) hat is that TMNT = Artists - artists use brushes - Eastern writing is via brushes - new job is Onmyōji especially as they have appeared in mount rokon in gear (i think) that has not been seen in the game before. If we got this job then the caster would use paper talismans to accomplish their spells. Which would also be a unique weapon for them, (Alongside Bell for Geomancer)

    I don't think its very likley - but its a hope nonetheless.

    For me I really want more eastern themed jobs. Which would also pull into the Ninja vs pirate thing.

    That said, I also think the tshirt is hinting at the melee job in muliple ways and a new t-shirt in the EU fanfest will hint at the caster.

    Usually we get:

    Fan fest 1 - First job hint
    Fan fest 2 - First Job confirmation and second job hint OR Other hint (bugs bunny for viera)
    Fan fest 3 - Second job confirmation
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  5. #45
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    Reaper was a unique job with a reused weapon and Sage was the inverse. If they add Corsair and/or Relm's job, they'll likely have either a different name or a different weapon.
    I fully agree with this, having a "corsair" with such a not-corsair weapon.
    We also barely see the outfit and it is mostly covered by the coat, we only have part of the outfit that is somewhat "corsair like".

    I highly think it's will be somesort of mystic swordman. Mystic Corsair why not, we already have jobs that are mixes between 2 previous job in the series.
    I don't think we'll get a "pure" corsair. What is is going to do, throw rhum at me?
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 08-02-2023 at 06:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I fully agree with this, having a "corsair" with such a not-corsair weapon.
    We also barely see the outfit and it is mostly covered by the coat, we only have part of the outfit that is somewhat "corsair like".

    I highly think it's will be somesort of mystic swordman. Mystic Corsair why not, we already have jobs that are mixes between 2 previous job in the series.
    I don't think we'll get a "pure" corsair. What is is going to do, throw rhum at me?
    If we were going by only what jobs have had in the past, most melee would in isolation pare down to "Attack" and various forms of <Stat Reduction Skills>. So, no, I don't think even an especially "pure" take on Corsair would be nearly so limited.

    Moreover, we already have arguably five flavors of magic-emitting swordsmen across SAM (literally throws wind blades, uses glacial spikes, etc.), PLD (holy-infused thrusts and holy ranged attacks), RDM (enchanted melee attacks), DRK (releasing shadow/umbral/void magics through its blade), and NIN roughly half the time (when its weapons are quite obviously of the lengths of messers, scimitars, falchions, etc., rather than any sort of mere dagger). Of all ways to compliment a Corsair's identity... why yet another magic-infused/wielding sword-user?

    For my part, I would guess some manner of actually new (pseudo-)melee weapon --instead of Swordsman #5 or 6-- and the complimentary elements taking after Gambler, Hunter, Sky Pirate, etc., rather than yet another slice of Mystic Knight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    If we were going by only what jobs have had in the past, most melee would in isolation pare down to "Attack" and various forms of <Stat Reduction Skills>. So, no, I don't think even an especially "pure" take on Corsair would be nearly so limited.

    Moreover, we already have arguably five flavors of magic-emitting swordsmen across SAM (literally throws wind blades, uses glacial spikes, etc.), PLD (holy-infused thrusts and holy ranged attacks), RDM (enchanted melee attacks), DRK (releasing shadow/umbral/void magics through its blade), and NIN roughly half the time (when its weapons are quite obviously of the lengths of messers, scimitars, falchions, etc., rather than any sort of mere dagger). Of all ways to compliment a Corsair's identity... why yet another magic-infused/wielding sword-user?

    For my part, I would guess some manner of actually new (pseudo-)melee weapon --instead of Swordsman #5 or 6-- and the complimentary elements taking after Gambler, Hunter, Sky Pirate, etc., rather than yet another slice of Mystic Knight.
    Am guessing a corsair, saber with a hexgun, hex gun will fire aetheric bullets, who knows maybe we get the return of the former mch reload system. Hard to say what the playstyle will be but saber and hexgun is my bet.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    If we were going by only what jobs have had in the past, most melee would in isolation pare down to "Attack" and various forms of <Stat Reduction Skills>. So, no, I don't think even an especially "pure" take on Corsair would be nearly so limited.

    Moreover, we already have arguably five flavors of magic-emitting swordsmen across SAM (literally throws wind blades, uses glacial spikes, etc.), PLD (holy-infused thrusts and holy ranged attacks), RDM (enchanted melee attacks), DRK (releasing shadow/umbral/void magics through its blade), and NIN roughly half the time (when its weapons are quite obviously of the lengths of messers, scimitars, falchions, etc., rather than any sort of mere dagger). Of all ways to compliment a Corsair's identity... why yet another magic-infused/wielding sword-user?
    This is a fantasy game, all jobs have some sort of magic tied to it or using aether.
    WAR summons its inner beast, DRK uses dark arts, PLD holy arts, GNB aether infused cartridges, MNK use Chakras, NIN uses Ninjutsu, SAM the way of the sword or something, DRG uses the power of dragonblood, Reaper summons its avatar...

    Having Corsair not using aether would be a first and quite confusing lorewise.
    Just think about its limit break, what would it be? A big slice? Throw an explosive barrel at the target?

    The identity of a Corsair is simply weird in FF XIV, all melees are the elites of a nation with secret art shared through job stones.
    It will have some elements of magic, I just don't see a job going full Thancred mode.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    This is a fantasy game, all jobs have some sort of magic tied to it or using aether.
    I never said otherwise, but there's a difference between simply using aether and being yet another swordsman firing off spells or flinging wind, ice, and/or death-themed slashes.

    If you like Mystic Knight, you have a job that explicitly absorbed its theme (DRK), three other near analogs, and two more with its sword(s)-and-magic aspect. You don't need to turn Corsair into that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    We could argue it's in the back but might as well argue there's a disco ball in there
    The disco ball was a perfectly viable weapon in Ratchet & Clank. I'm up for it. Cue the unexpected dance party trailer.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tracewood View Post
    Has anyone taken a look in Krile's study? I never realized this before, but there's lots of artwork and maps scattered around, right above where she stands looking at the note is a drawing of what I assume is Garuda. On the opposite side of the wall are what looks like art from loading screens, and some I don't recognize. Maybe she could have done these over the years?
    Out of universe, I assume it's old concept art. In universe, it's not just "Krile's study" but the Students of Baldesion headquarters, and investigating strange phenomena is their thing, so I assume is a collection of notes and sketches copied from old books – not one person's work but done by an assortment of people over time as they pursue various leads.
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