Devs Please Be Careful Not To Disrespect Real Native Cultures In The New World

[LinaAkayomi]

There is no issue giving an under represented culture a moment via high fantasy, but if you all remember the in game Native American headdress controversy, which actually did upset people of specific communities, this expansion has to tread carefully.

Again, I think it’s really cool that they are doing this, but one misstep, and the media will never let it down. Especially after the comments about FFXVI being supposedly racist. Division III needs to be careful with racial comments, and how they represent cultures from now on.

I hope that the players, especially here in North America are not shy to mention if the dev team messes up on any of the representation. They need to hear it from us first. I do not believe the devs are intentionally racist, or harmful to any group of people. Yoshi P and his team are much more progressive than the majority of Japan. I do think they will listen to us if such a misstep happens. There have been numerous missteps that got fixed.

Japan has a totally different outlook in culture.
So does Central/South and Latin America
We're just hype to see some of our culture represented in videogames.
Remember when Nintendo brought out the Sombrero Mario, and everyone on twitter started spewing poison?
But then mexicans walked in like "Dude, the fuck are you saying, WE LOVE THIS?"
Don't white knight other people's cultures. Don't assume, don't talk if you're not a native of that culture yourself.
If you are of Mayan, Incan, Mexica, or other Central/South American native ascendancy, then voice your concerns.
If you're just another white person online... just don't. I'm trying to say this as politely as I can.

[Karious]

Lmao we're being trolls because he posted something he has no business advocating for and we disagree with it. Okay buddy.

[ServerCollaps]

i hope this is a troll thread..

[Stanelis]

i hope this is a troll thread..

I find your comment to be highly offensive towards trolls.

[Asphhar]

This meme is XIV right now for a lot of people.

People who never liked MMOs came in and acted like the person on the left, and now a bunch of us who have loved XIV for years have seen it altered in a such a massive way that it no longer resembles the game we loved. Everything has been watered down and made simpler and less fun for the sake of people who never liked the genre that XIV was and was supposed to be. Just look at the relics as an example. Relics are a standard MMO grind, but now they're a braindead tome vendor because grinding is too hard/boring for people who don't like MMOs. Those people insisted that an MMO should abandon the genre it was supposed to be in because people who don't like MMOs want this game to be something it's not. Bozja and Eureka were designed for people who love MMOs, the Manderville relics were designed for people who hate MMOs. There's also far less content per patch because people who don't like MMOs only want to log in once every four months.

And now that the veteran fanbase is upset with these changes, we're being told to just leave because the game 'was never for us anyways' by people who hate everything Final Fantasy XIV used to be.

EDIT: This is pretty off-topic for the thread, so I might go repost this as it's own thread.

So much this.

[Hallideus]

The team is more than likely already making sure they don't fall through any trap doors regarding negative cultural depictions but, the issue is and many make some very rational points; the goal posts are constantly being moved by this person that person in regards to what is respectful, what is disrespectful. IN A FICTIONAL FANTASY WORLD. Where fictional cultures and people only take vague inspirations and influence from real world cultures past, present.

Now It's common courtesy to make sure these interpretations, influences and such that are depicted are faithful to the cultures yes but beyond that? Nothing really needs doing worth writing essays about.
Being able do distinguish the line between Fictional cultures and Reality's is something so many fall short of grasping when having these conversations.
Despite what Twitter, Resetera and all those toxic swamps of the internet say; Fictional and fantasy depictions of colonialism, slavery, imperialism involving these fictional, fantasy cultures, are still fictional and fantasy. Not real life.

[DamianFatale]

How hard is it to realize that I'm being bullied. Look at the disgusting tags people added to this thread in order to harass me. I'm definitely filing some reports, though I do want to stay civil, so I won't mention who. Just please do not harass, or target me. I'm not doing anything wrong by posting a concern that was meant to be kind.

Mods really need to step in and clear the trolls, and brigaders out of this forum. Again, there is a reason people call this place the worst place in the fandom to be. The majority of the playerbase does not like the forum culture here, and finds the forums too hostile to interact in. FFXIV forums are too toxic.

[DixieBellOCE]

So much this.

Agreed.

Awesome summed up the feeling of prettymuch every single veteran player, both casual and hardcore.

This is not XIV anymore. It is an online chat service for lonely teenagers. IMVU V2.0

[Hallideus]

Agreed.

Awesome summed up the feeling of prettymuch every single veteran player, both casual and hardcore.

This is not XIV anymore. It is an online chat service for lonely teenagers. IMVU V2.0

I just call it Habbo Hotel. The game's difficulty floor has been reduced to the point of trying to forcibly encourage these kinds of players who have no real desire to engage with content anyways.
Now. They're more than free to use the game as a social hub if they want to, their choice, but if these choices and changes come at the cost of taking away the characteristics that make this game. Well, a GAME. Is it still even FFXIV?

[Ivtrix]

How hard is it to realize that I'm being bullied. Look at the disgusting tags people added to this thread in order to harass me. I'm definitely filing some reports, though I do want to stay civil, so I won't mention who. Just please do not harass, or target me. I'm not doing anything wrong by posting a concern that was meant to be kind.

Mods really need to step in and clear the trolls, and brigaders out of this forum. Again, there is a reason people call this place the worst place in the fandom to be. The majority of the playerbase does not like the forum culture here, and finds the forums too hostile to interact in. FFXIV forums are too toxic.

youre not being bullied. people disagree with your position

how sad that your response to criticism is to cry and play the victim

sad!