Devs Please Be Careful Not To Disrespect Real Native Cultures In The New World

[PirateRyanG]

90% of the time, the people complaining about 'disrespecting' native cultures are those not from that culture. They get insulted on behalf of somebody else.

[Clover_Blake]

Even if they are made up, they can still offend

... o.o


Edit: Oh, so this is another troll alt? Ugh...

[Aword3213]

90% of the time, the people complaining about 'disrespecting' native cultures are those not from that culture. They get insulted on behalf of somebody else.

Remind me of videos by PragerU

The only people who are actually offened by Cultural appropriation don't really have anything else of meaning going on in their lives

Students Vs. Mexicans: Cultural Appropriation
Students vs. Chinese: Cultural Appropriation

[Zaiekk]

[PirateRyanG]

Remind me of videos by PragerU

The only people who are actually offened by Cultural appropriation don't really have anything else of meaning going on in their lives

Students Vs. Mexicans: Cultural Appropriation
Students vs. Chinese: Cultural Appropriation

Yes. That's one video I thought of.

A while back, I had editorial oversight on an article related to some culture. I published the article, and I didn't see that it may have been 'insulting' to certain groups. To be fair, it wasn't really. I mean, you would have needed to look real deep.

Within days, it had gone viral on Reddit.

Our comment section used the Facebook thingy. Like, where you can add Facebook comments to your page. 90% of the comments came from people that had absolutely nothing to do with that culture, calling us scum or whatever. The other 10% came from people that were part of that culture, praising us for putting them in a positive light.

[Karious]

Oh no, I'm an alt right Boogeyman because I think you're creating a non-issue to take the moral high ground of an expansion that's not even out yet? I asked my friends from Brazil their thoughts on the expansion and they're excited. They want stereotypes and exaggerated depictions that paint their culture as exciting. People like you want everything watered down and boring. Stop speaking as an authority for people you shouldn't speak for.
Edit: even then, as we've said, it's a fantasy game. It's not real!!!

[Aword3213]

These forums have lost all hope. :/

You're here at FFXIV forum, a place where gamers gather.

Gamers just want good games, and we know this sort of topic is wrecking havoc and ruining everything in entertainment and gaming industry.

[PirateRyanG]

You're here at FFXIV forum, a place where gamers gather.

Gamers just want good games, and we know this sort of topic is wrecking havoc and ruining everything in entertainment and gaming industry.

Nothing is being ruined in gaming or entertainment industry, though.

[ElysiumDragon]

I hope they don't do something stupid, if only so I don't have to see a hundred threads complaining about it.

[ItWillBeOkay]

/facepalm

Okay, I get people are well meaning with this sort of thing...but for the love of all that's holy AND unholy, people can't walk on eggshells and still have a functional world. And I mean real world. Mistakes happen, and that's Human. If people aren't trying to insult people, folks need to stop attacking them for it.

FICTIONAL worlds are FICTIONAL. They may resemble or take ques from our world, but they aren't our world.

The worst part is when it's selective outrage. Heavensward was not an attack on Catholics and Christians, despite taking inspiration from middle-ages Europe (specifically France/Franks). I don't recall any "controversy" about "killing the pope" (in fact, it's a meme). No one came to the defense of Europeans being portrayed badly by Ishgardians.

At the end of the day, homages and the like are just that, and this team are not insulting in their intent. If people have issues with specific things, and are PART OF THE COMMUNITIES that are supposedly slighted, that's fine, they can voice their concerns. But people need to stop selective outrage (on behalf of some groups but not others) and taking on offense for the sake of other people instead of letting those people speak for themselves (things like "white savior complex"; people are able to speak for themselves, let them - you can support them, but don't deign to speak in their place, let them have their own voice).

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If people aren't intentionally insulting, then that's what matters. A perceived MAYBE insult isn't it. No more eggshells, please.

Because Catholics and Christian people in general are used to be portrayed in many different ways in games and movies. I'm a Catholic and had absolutely no problem with Heavensward because it's a work of fiction and SE didn't even try to represent my religion, they just used some elements to portray their vision of "holy war" in a fantasy game. I just suppose we have a bit thicker skin since religious people are offended all the time in the modern world.

Meanwhile many minorities are like "you have to portray us only in a 100% positive way or we will punish you and cancel you, you will regret it for the rest of your life!!!". It's so tiresome.