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  1. #11
    Player
    Tint's Avatar
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    In the right-hand attic
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    Character
    Karuru Karu
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Idk, FSH would be at a distinct disadvantage because of having a lower ilvl than the other Gatherers since their Gig never got updated and don't the offhands for the others offer more VIT?
    Fisher is even more at a disadvantage. Not only is he even more immobile than other gatherers, he also gathers way slower, which means he will lose more value with every fish stolen. Also there are really rare fish which only spawn once a week or so and it would be really unfair to get one of those stolen. That's like someone steals your savage loot for the week.

    On the plus side fisher has lots of useless junk fish wich are cluttering the inventory, so you can probably reduce the odds that something valuable gets stolen.

    But anyway, a bunch of gankers staying at the fishing spot at the time when a rare big fish spawns to knock out every fisher who happens to catch the fish is not a threat, that's destroying the whole fisher class.

    Fisher has to deal with enough RNG and gameplay anyway, there is no need for additional threat. And arguably fishing should be relaxing anyway.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

  2. #12
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    Eorzean_username's Avatar
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    Character
    Azephia Dawn
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    so the next Diadem equivalent would be a Frontlines map

    but you can only use Gathering and Crafting Classes

    just like other PvP Jobs, you have your own separate hotbar full of deadly DOH/DOL actions

    Goldsmith can Summon Bahamammet and has a Melee Caster rotation like Red Mage, but themed on Godbert

    Fisher can Harpoon people and pull them from 20 yalms away, Silence with Flying Sardine

    Miner gives people Vuln Up

    Alchemist is a DOT dps (has Triglyceride-Disaster) that throws vials to create toxic puddles and buffs the party with illegal stimulants, uses Somnus to CC people

    Culinarian has Salted Earth but it uses real salt, Riddle of Fryer, Cream within a Cream, Dragon Pepper Kick, Broil which upgrades to Sautée if you successfully detonate Earthly Starch, Frypan-haima, etc

    Tank classes
    Armorer
    Miner

    Healer classes
    Botanist (wields scythe, uses Black Shroud Gauge to build up to burst window where they temporarily become a tree)
    Culinarian

    Melee classes
    Carpenter (saws you)
    Blacksmith (hits you with a hammer)
    Leatherworker (flays you)

    Ranged Physical classes
    Fisher
    Weaver (shoots needles like a cactuar)

    Caster classes
    Goldsmith
    Alchemist

    Gathering resources, or crafting using them, contributes points to your team... but you also keep them when you exit and can sell them or use them to craft

    KOing someone transfers all the gathered or crafted goods that they've collected on the battlefield so far into your inventory

    your Limit Break is the Auger from Diadem, which you can use to delete people
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  3. #13
    Player
    Catwho's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Katarh Mest
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    There is no threat to gathering.

    Turn on World PVP if we are switched to a gathering class. Let us steal other people's resources.

    Bonus points if you can turn it on for crafting classes too. Would love to whack a carpenter around the head with my cooking pan and steal their HQ logs.
    Nodes were shared in the alpha version of 2.0 and we begged them to not to do that to us.
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  4. #14
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Silver Strider
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    Nodes were shared in the alpha version of 2.0 and we begged them to not to do that to us.
    ESO resource nodes are shared. The amount of nasty messages I've gotten from people that I beat to a node always brings a smile to my face, especially Alchemy nodes. The salt of picking up some Columbine is delicious
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  5. #15
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    PirateRyanG's Avatar
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    Character
    Aserana Swian
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    ESO resource nodes are shared. The amount of nasty messages I've gotten from people that I beat to a node always brings a smile to my face, especially Alchemy nodes. The salt of picking up some Columbine is delicious
    They never actually used to be shared in ESO. Really annoyed me during the double gathering events. You'd rock up to a node, and then some mob would start pounding on you, and somebody would sneak in behind and take the node from ya. So irritating.
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  6. #16
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Character
    Raansu Omiyari
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    OP is the same type of person that goes into a level 20 zone as a level 60 and ganks people. OP is not a pvper.

    There's a reason no one ever flagged for pvp in New World and why the devs opted to not have forced pvp after all their beta testing.
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  7. #17
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    PirateRyanG's Avatar
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    Character
    Aserana Swian
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    OP is the same type of person that goes into a level 20 zone as a level 60 and ganks people. OP is not a pvper.

    There's a reason no one ever flagged for pvp in New World and why the devs opted to not have forced pvp after all their beta testing.
    I've never done that in my life. I rarely world PVP in any game. Only time I have 'killed' people much lower than me in a world PVP game is if the player is harassing a guild mate or a friend.

    I'm more of an arranged PVP sorta person.

    But sure, attack me all you want. You know what they say "Dictators attack the person, not the idea".
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  8. #18
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    The kind of person that usually wants this sort of thing fits into the type known as a griefer. Silver-Strider has already admitted that he is.

    If you want continuous open world pvp, this is the wrong game. Go play Archerage; the game is set up exactly how you're asking.
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Kris Goldenshield
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    As someone who played FF11, it sucks to fight over nodes when ultimately the gil farming bots monopolized the nodes. They would also use mob trains to MPK you.

    If it was something like a specific map (diadem?) then sure, game on.

    Open world, No thanks.
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  10. #20
    Player
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    Character
    Saya Finwel
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    As silly as it sound i love the idea of gatherer pvp, even more if it trigger the hall of novice battle theme.
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