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  1. #71
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I'm not reading this as your essays are usually mostly word bloat and I guarantee that you could make your argument with a quarter or less of the words you used.

    I'll just reiterate my point. Looking at FFXIV Collect, we got 12 mounts between 6.4 and 6.45. Sounds like a lot right? However, there's a really big asterisk there.

    - Four of them are recolors/reskins of existing mounts that are VERY similar (three mandragonas and an extreme mount)
    - Two of them are upscales of existing mobs (the buffalo and the supporter, not counting Shadowkeeper)
    - Two of them are mogstation mounts (the bike and shadowkeeper)

    This means that we got a grand total of four mounts that do not fit into these catagories. Thus, it is important that when comparing the amount of new mogstation content to the amount of new in-game content, that we do not pretend like a recolor/reskin is of the same quality as a mount like the new bike.
    Here's your TLDR:

    If the cash shop mounts are the good stuff, why do their owners mostly stop using them after a couple of weeks and go back to mounts they had earned through game play?

    Cruise Chaser is the only mount from the cash shop that seems to show up often in the open world months after it was added.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Here's your TLDR:

    If the cash shop mounts are the good stuff, why do their owners mostly stop using them after a couple of weeks and go back to mounts they had earned through game play?

    Cruise Chaser is the only mount from the cash shop that seems to show up often in the open world months after it was added.
    I actually see lots of Carbuncle and Fatter Cat mounts
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  3. #73
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If the cash shop mounts are the good stuff, why do their owners mostly stop using them after a couple of weeks and go back to mounts they had earned through game play?
    For the same reason that there were a gazillion Sunforges at large gatherings like hunt trains when Abyssos was relevant, and why there's a bunch of axolotls now. People use new rare or hard to get items so they can flex that they have it. This is a pretty common and well known behavior in MMOs. Once that item isn't considered 'prestigious' (at least to the people that actually care) or a new 'prestigious' item exists, they swap to something else. (and if you think this behavior is stupid, I agree, but that doesn't mean that people don't do it)

    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    I actually see lots of Carbuncle and Fatter Cat mounts
    I still see a decent amount of all of the more popular mogstation mounts.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 07-26-2023 at 05:28 PM.

  4. #74
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    Mr_Gyactus's Avatar
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    Rugiada Brightdawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Can't you just play a YouTube video though? I have had mount music turned off for several years now.
    We can play whatever we want, but the OST is part of an entertainment.
    For example, a movie: we say "that's a good movie, I like the movie" because the story is good, the actors are good, the sceneries are breathtaking, but it's the soundtrack that connects you emotionally to the movie.

    Home
    Riding home
    Dying hope
    Hold onto hope..
    One brings shadow One brings light


    This text should trigger the music, the music an event, and the event a specific NPC story.
    No other song could trigger the same particular emotion.
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    I have 10,000 needles,
    I'm not a weaver,
    and I'm not scared to use them.

  5. #75
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    While i don't care about what people do with their money in general, i do when it contribute to make what i enjoy worse. Each bucks spent on the cash shop incentivize squeenix to focus more on putting things in it than in the actual game.

    And the infamous "money goes back to the game" while i use to thought so, the last 2 years made me very skeptical about it.
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  6. #76
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Krysvein View Post
    We're talking about a slightly faster 2-seater mount that costs 32€.

    The previous mount to have the speed boost was SDS Fenrir, which costs 24€. Does that extra seat really warrant the additional 8€ cost? If so, then why does the 8-seater Lunar Whale only cost 33€? What kind of alien logic does the price ramp use here?

    Please, for the love of god, don't buy this overpriced nonsense
    It is fine, no one need to buy it, also it is account wide.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    It is fine, no one need to buy it, also it is account wide.
    i could explain again and again, but it is always the same same with you guys who write this stupid non-argument.

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  8. #78
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    Bunbun Thurm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syln View Post
    While i don't care about what people do with their money in general, i do when it contribute to make what i enjoy worse. Each bucks spent on the cash shop incentivize squeenix to focus more on putting things in it than in the actual game.

    And the infamous "money goes back to the game" while i use to thought so, the last 2 years made me very skeptical about it.
    How is it making it worse? Unless they've released new info, we've been told in the past that it's an entirely different team that does shop items. So there's no guarantee these mounts would even exist without the cash shop.
    If you don't like seeing the mounts because you want it but don't wanna spend the money, I can get that for sure.
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  9. #79
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    Drast Vyrkasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    It is fine, no one need to buy it, also it is account wide.
    Did you even check the store before posting this?

    ALL OF THE FANFEST MOUNTS ARE ACCOUNT-WIDE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    No reward is worth suffering through content you feel is bad. The worst thing the playerbase can do to itself is force-complete the content it hates. It leaves the false impression that despite complaints, players are generally satisfied with the content and it's okay to make more like it. If players stop working on the content even with rewards incomplete (like Pagos when it first came out), it will send a clear sign that changes need to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    People not buying off the mog station isn't going to magically improve the quality of ingame items. If anything it wouldn't exist in either space. No content in game and nothing on the store. It's an entirely separate team that makes the shop products. It's not going to suddenly increase resources for ingame content by removing the store.
    You can already see cash shop items being more desirable than their counterpart. If you feel like buying it, more power to you, but don't insult everybody else's intelligence. There is more than enough examples from other games and XIV's only got worse over the last few years.
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