I’ve come to realise that materia needs help

[Supersnow845]

I mean, Luckybancho updated 4 days ago with the new census data.
https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/wsurve...?world=Materia

(Please remember that the Data only includes players that have a level 70 job, or a gunbreaker/dancer at level 60) ~This is to avoid free trial/bots being counted in the census.

Materia is a sample size of 18,982 players that met the criteria for the Materia census.

Around ~1700 of those characters existed before 2021. meaning the majority of Materia are either New players, or Alt Characters.

The population of the previous Census 3 months ago was 24,053 Characters. That is a loss of 5,071 characters in the 3 month period.



The above image shows the shift in players over the 3 month period.


What does this tell us about Materia?
1) The majoirty of the player base are new or alt characters.
2) Player retention is very low, at around 78%
3) More players are transferring in, than transferring out, but more people are leaving the game than joining.


Some additional Information:
1) 55.2% of players have never touched eureka.
2) 55.1% of players have never touched Bozja.
3) There is a staggering 970 free companies with 1 character in them (Gold bots/farmers/sellers).
4) The average FC size is 1-3 players.
5) 8.2% of players obtained the 6.2 Savage mount.
6) 61.4% of players have completed the 6.0 Endwalker MSQ (Based on having the Argos mount unlocked from the final 6.0 MSQ)

This kinda plays into what I made the post about

People make new accounts on materia, level up then transfer away from materia so it’s basically perpetual new people

I did a random test and asked 15 instances of people in the MSQ roulette who remembers the old MSQ roulette, of the 23 answers I got only 2 remembered the old MSQ roulette

I guess I just got burned out on assisting the constantly cycling population meaning the high level content never popped

[Scruit_Bigtime]

the main issue i see linking Materia to other datacentres in going to be the latency.

oceanic players have gotten used to playing at high (~200ms) latency becuase they're wasnt an option for otherwise.

opening access to other DCs wont realistically solve many issues. non-materia players wont come over to experience higher latency, and most likely non-materia player will prefer players from their own data centres to avoid latency based issues.

as far as alliance raids, i feel materia has mostly settled upon using partyfinder to make groups for these, often you'll see party finders up for raids and these will fill quickly when compared to queing it as a roullette.

speaking from personal experience, myself and many of the people i play with dont que for alliance raid in duty finder soley because we're all sick of crystal tower

[Supersnow845]

the main issue i see linking Materia to other datacentres in going to be the latency.

oceanic players have gotten used to playing at high (~200ms) latency becuase they're wasnt an option for otherwise.

opening access to other DCs wont realistically solve many issues. non-materia players wont come over to experience higher latency, and most likely non-materia player will prefer players from their own data centres to avoid latency based issues.

as far as alliance raids, i feel materia has mostly settled upon using partyfinder to make groups for these, often you'll see party finders up for raids and these will fill quickly when compared to queing it as a roullette.

speaking from personal experience, myself and many of the people i play with dont que for alliance raid in duty finder soley because we're all sick of crystal tower

That was part of my problem I couldn’t even get PF’s for the alliance raids besides void ark to pop

My experience was basically
-boot scooting roulette- you will get a level 50 dungeon
-levelling- hope you like sub 50 dungeons
-alliance- crystal tower
-trials- Ramuh or titan
-normal raids- A1 or A2


Even if I wanted to do something else trying to queue for it manually was pointless but PF rarely wanted to sync content even if you could fill it

[DixieBellOCE]

I guess I just got burned out on assisting the constantly cycling population meaning the high level content never popped

This is basically how it felt playing on Materia, The constant burnout of repeating the same instances over and over again in the hopes that some of the players will make it into current expansion content, but either quit or leave the server before they get there.

[AwesomeJr44]

People make new accounts on materia, level up then transfer away from materia so it’s basically perpetual new people

That's sadly to be expected. Materia is not a desirable place to be for people doing higher level content, so when people get to the point where they want/need to do that, they can't so they transfer away, thus keeping the higher level content barren. It's a cycle, but I can't say I blame anyone for leaving.

[Supersnow845]

That's sadly to be expected. Materia is not a desirable place to be for people doing higher level content, so when people get to the point where they want/need to do that, they can't so they transfer away, thus keeping the higher level content barren. It's a cycle, but I can't say I blame anyone for leaving.

It was to be expected I totally agree (I mean I myself chose to leave), I just didn’t expect it would affect me so quickly and so harshly

[DixieBellOCE]

That's sadly to be expected. Materia is not a desirable place to be for people doing higher level content, so when people get to the point where they want/need to do that, they can't so they transfer away, thus keeping the higher level content barren. It's a cycle, but I can't say I blame anyone for leaving.

Yeah i cannot blame the players for wanting to leave when i, myself, left after 11 months of hell.

Spent the next 3 months raiding on JP and then moved to NA for a while, spent 7 months there and actually hated it more than Materia.

I parked my main account back on Materia with some IRL friends and took a break from the game, still not sure if ill be back for the final patch or just come back in 7.0 when we might see another small population boom.

[Iscah]

That was part of my problem I couldn’t even get PF’s for the alliance raids besides void ark to pop

My experience was basically
-boot scooting roulette- you will get a level 50 dungeon
-levelling- hope you like sub 50 dungeons
-alliance- crystal tower
-trials- Ramuh or titan
-normal raids- A1 or A2


Even if I wanted to do something else trying to queue for it manually was pointless but PF rarely wanted to sync content even if you could fill it

I don't think I got much better than that in Elemental, really. I think the extended free trial has skewed it everywhere.

[Supersnow845]

I don't think I got much better than that in Elemental, really. I think the extended free trial has skewed it everywhere.

Oh I agree it still skews strongly that way on the busy servers but the difference is the other options do pop on occasion and if they don’t you can queue directly for them

It speaks alot in 15 months on materia I have literally never had a single alliance raid because CT pop except a single time where we got void ark and someone outright said “we are here because I queued for this directly” on the busy servers at worst you will get a non CT raid maybe once per 10 days or so

[ChrysOCE]

It speaks alot in 15 months on materia I have literally never had a single alliance raid because CT pop except a single time where we got void ark and someone outright said “we are here because I queued for this directly” on the busy servers at worst you will get a non CT raid maybe once per 10 days or so

Was that like a month ago? I remember that happening. Rare occasion I queued for AR, for a Bozja relic, and we got Void Ark. Everyone was thanking whoever queued Void Ark directly. The stars aligned on that occasion, even though I actually wanted CT lol
Then I came back to my senses, went back to Bozja and just farmed what I needed the long way.