Reporting and removing obvious trolls

[Renalt]

This is one of those things that walks RIGHT up to the TOS line and goes "I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!"

All the more reason there needs to be a white/black list for housing.

Sorry you're going through that OP but I think the only thing you can do is screenshot and report and do it daily. They might get sick of the daily reports and actually do something.

Maybe.

Probably not.

Mostly if not all automated.

[PartyZapper]

Oh the ironing.

So sad to see people selecting something and ignoring the fact i said they are over 30 bot accounts lvl 1 just idling and covering space

[PartyZapper]

If it doesn't break any TOS and it's not your venue then what's even the problem? Just avoid them and blacklist. You can't just whine and demand people are banned from the game because they annoy you. If they have actual offensive names that break TOS then report them but if you've reported them and GMs have said it's not a problem then you just gotta learn to deal with it.

Didnt I say its my friends? its incredible to find this level of emphaty, "they should do everything" right? just wow, how can you believe 30 bot accounts jsut taking up space is not wrong?

[PartyZapper]

Ok, let me state a few things.

1. How many of you and the other dj's and staff were even around the venue/owner in mid 2021 to early 2022 to be able to make the statement "did nothing wrong"? Are you even aware that 3 other venues by her best friends got closed in the past due to attacking 10+ venues for 5+ months, that were primarily the reason for the prohibited behaviors update in late 2021? That these harassment charges included /actual/ fake party finder openings off hours, groping guests, doxxing other owners, blackmailing other owners with fake documents, public defamation in PF, advertising other venues inside of openings, sexual harassing guests including via voice audio links dropped in chat, flooded chats about sexual acts, stalking outside of opening hours, impersonation, barding over paid performances, etc. And you have the audacity to come to the forums to complain about people sitting still in a venue? You have no idea what harassment actually is, nor what happens in venue owner only discords and DM's in the background as a DJ or a regular staff member.

2. You aren't going to be able to do anything due to factors you aren't aware of because the owner is keeping everyone in the dark. You're not dealing with a troll. You are dealing with a former owner, one of the top former owners on Aether, that has relationships to other owners that have known GM's over the years. You are not going to get advice on the forums that surpasses the knowledge of venue owners with years of experience filing tickets with direct connections to ask for clarification on how GM's process events. You have no idea how far out of your league you currently are. Maybe you should have her ask one of her friends in the discord who got their main permabanned from back then and almost faced legal charges for defamation for help since they should have experience with GM's. Hopefully they remember something still after having to leave the RP community and stick to raiding after people found their irl information and they couldn't hide behind a screen anymore.

Are you saying because others are getting it worse this doesnt matter? Is this for real? must be a joke or something, like are you telling me if there is something wrong you know its wrong, i know its wrong jsut dont do anything because nothing will happen? once again, is this for real? lol

[LianaThorne]

So sad to see people selecting something and ignoring the fact i said they are over 30 bot accounts lvl 1 just idling and covering space

Hi. Can I have context to the situation? What caused this? When did it start? What are they doing there while they are there? Have they reached out to anyone to talk about what they want? Etc.

[PartyZapper]

Hi. Can I have context to the situation? What caused this? When did it start? What are they doing there while they are there? Have they reached out to anyone to talk about what they want? Etc.

Please dont take me the wrong way, but even if i had the whole story it wouldnt do much explaining here, all i know is that the trolls seem to know the owner and just decided to do this, I mean, the owner is an online friend and all ive know is that they are nice, i have no clue if they deserve this or not but all i know is that they are stressed and feel really bad for this,

All I tried to do by coming to this forum is to try to see if there is a better way to report and make the GMs aware of this because in game reporting doesnt seem to work,

i have seriously no clue why some community members think they can instantly assume the worse from someone who is having this problem, i dont care if someone has 50 years of experience in the game, all i know this is wrong and I am trying to find a better way to stop this.

[Kes13a]

i have seriously no clue why some community members think they can instantly assume the worse from someone who is having this problem, i dont care if someone has 50 years of experience in the game, all i know this is wrong and I am trying to find a better way to stop this.

because the forums have a history of posts of people complaining about things like this and then the whole story emerges, and the whole story is much different than presented..... context is always important. if they have offensive names, they are reportable, standing there doing nothing... you can try.

the forums in general, especially lately, are not a great place for information. all you can do in game is report and pray. thats it. there is no real "better way".

[Bsrking5]

Well I welcome our new bot overlords, they didn't nothing wrong. Bots have rights and freedoms too!

[LianaThorne]

Please dont take me the wrong way, but even if i had the whole story it wouldnt do much explaining here, all i know is that the trolls seem to know the owner and just decided to do this, I mean, the owner is an online friend and all ive know is that they are nice, i have no clue if they deserve this or not but all i know is that they are stressed and feel really bad for this,

All I tried to do by coming to this forum is to try to see if there is a better way to report and make the GMs aware of this because in game reporting doesnt seem to work,

i have seriously no clue why some community members think they can instantly assume the worse from someone who is having this problem, i dont care if someone has 50 years of experience in the game, all i know this is wrong and I am trying to find a better way to stop this.

Sounds like a case of someone pissing someone off to me. The GMs probably won't get involved either since they have a very "work out disputes like adults" mentality for most cases.

You also don't know the story as you claim so might be best to get the information or ultimately stay out of it. I honestly think there's more to this cause these things don't tend to happen randomly.

Speaking from my own experience with GMs, they didn't get involved until I had actual threats made against my life and my stalker went psychotic.

[SturmChurro]

i have seriously no clue why some community members think they can instantly assume the worse from someone who is having this problem, i dont care if someone has 50 years of experience in the game, all i know this is wrong and I am trying to find a better way to stop this.

It's very common, but even if the worst were true, I fail to see the relevance of it. Harassment is harassment regardless. Or in other words.. two wrongs don't make a right.

Speaking from my own experience with GMs, they didn't get involved until I had actual threats made against my life and my stalker went psychotic.

I definitely do not agree with this style of ToS enforcement. If they would have acted, things may have never gotten that far.