What is the normal speed running strategy for Doma Castle?

[DixieBellOCE]

I have just finished a dungeon where the tank left. Which is fine.

I am normally a pretty decent healer. However, the tank insisted that the 'normal' strategy for Doma Castle is wall-to-wall pull through that little area with the bombs going off. You know, the one with some hefty pulls, and constant things to dodge on the floor (not to mention a LOT of corners).

I couldn't heal through it. At all. Normally I can manage, but not when a tank has about 40 mobs pounding on him at once. Not to mention he refused to slow down whenever he was at very, very low health. In fact, he insisted on running around the corners when this happened.

We failed a whopping 9 times. All the while, the tank refused to adapt to the group, despite insistence from everybody (people agreed it wasn't my fault), and said that this is the normal speed running strategy and EVERYBODY should be able to handle it with ease.

I insisted that it isn't a standard speed running strat (seriously, never seen somebody to this in about 40 times running Doma). Not to mention dying 9 times on one section is hardly 'quick'.

He eventually left. Said that we were all 'brain damaged noobs'. The next tank that replaced him (all tank classes to 90) agreed that what this previous tank did wasn't normal. Everything went smoothly. No more deaths.

So yeah. How do you normally run that section of Doma?

Spam holy, Stunned enemies do 0 damage.

[Koros]

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If you can't heal that pull you're not as good as you think lmao

Everyone in this thread trying to find excuses for you, the tank was right.

Learn to spot heal while sprinting. They shouldn't even drop to below half health if both of you are doing this correctly.

Anyways, the fact you even casted Esuna tells me everything I need to know.

1) Regen on tank.
2) Sprint before you aggro anything, right before the aggro point for the first mob (stay slightly behind the tank), you need 20s of sprint
3) Run in perfect straight lines and take the shortest path, you should be running in a diagonal not forward.
4) Regen on yourself and the DPS.
5) Solace tank at 50% HP.
6) Preplace asylum at the very end
7) swiftcast holy and start spamming holy
8) wait for tank to drop to 20% hp and benediction.
9) once holy stuns are out maintain Regen and spam cure 2.

10) forgot to mention: just eat the cannon hits to keep up with the tank, tank has aggro and you kept Regen on yourself so it's fine, that's the whole point of (4).

This isn't hard, I did this with a tank that literally only used Rampart for the entire pull before.

[PirateRyanG]

Spam holy, Stunned enemies do 0 damage.

Can't spam holy if tank is constantly running, keeping mobs close to him. Holy is like a 3 second cast. You get some, but most will be gone way before holy fires off.

[PirateRyanG]

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If you can't heal that pull you're not as good as you think lmao

Everyone in this thread trying to find excuses for you, the tank was right.

Learn to spot heal while sprinting. They shouldn't even drop to below half health if both of you are doing this correctly.

Anyways, the fact you even casted Esuna tells me everything I need to know.

I think you underestimate how much damage the tank was taking. You can only spot heal so much, chum. If the tank is not stopping and going down in 2-3 hits from 10-20 mobs pounding on him at once (full to 0 in about 2 second) no healing is going to keep him up.

Anyway, you sound very aggressive. Hope all is good with your life?

[Renalt]

Can't spam holy if tank is constantly running, keeping mobs close to him. Holy is like a 3 second cast. You get some, but most will be gone way before holy fires off.

On extreme cases I will swiftcast Holy, Benediction, toss a regen, then holy spam. I've used that to great affect many a time. That's the VERY second they have stopped at the wall and it's DPS time.

[Aravell]

If you're talking about that section in between 1st and 2nd boss that you can full pull, the normal way back in SB was to split it into 2 pulls. Now though, people usually expect you to pull the whole thing. It's only 10 mobs for the whole thing (1 drill bot, 2 dogs, 1 reaper, 6 garlean soldiers) so it's doable, it does get a bit spicy if the tank is undergeared and isn't using mitigation though.

[PirateRyanG]

If you're talking about that section in between 1st and 2nd boss that you can full pull, the normal way back in SB was to split it into 2 pulls. Now though, people usually expect you to pull the whole thing. It's only 10 mobs for the whole thing (1 drill bot, 2 dogs, 1 reaper, 6 garlean soldiers) so it's doable, it does get a bit spicy if the tank is undergeared and isn't using mitigation though.

Yes. It is that pull (I think). The issue wasn't so much the pull. I can heal through it. It is just that the tank refused to pause, and was constantly paralysed (by standing in the red stuff). As in, he deliberately went out of his way to run around corners and 'hide' from healing.

[Jeeqbit]

Yeah. it is that big pull where you have to dodge the cannons, and have a ton of twists and turns. With all the red things that appear on the floor in front of the cannons that paralyse you if you stay in them. Lots and lots of mobs. I can handle every wall to wall pull in that dungeon. That one was well beyond my capabilities, though.

Don't get me wrong. I heal Mentor Roulette regularly now. When I get this dungeon, there are tanks who pull it all, and I do keep them alive. But I play SCH so I can't say about WHM.

I was just saying that all the healers I'd get in Stormblood couldn't handle it so I stopped.

[PirateRyanG]

Don't get me wrong. I heal Mentor Roulette regularly now. When I get this dungeon, there are tanks who pull it all, and I do keep them alive. But I play SCH so I can't say about WHM.

I was just saying that all the healers I'd get in Stormblood couldn't handle it so I stopped.

Were they stopping behind each individual section to allow DPS to drop something quickly, before moving on? I can't find any videos on YouTube about it. I looked, and everybody seemed to be doing it in two pulls or, at the very least, pausing once every so often to get a DPS AOE in there or, as somebody said, a Holy.

[Jeeqbit]

Were they stopping behind each individual section to allow DPS to drop something quickly, before moving on? I can't find any videos on YouTube about it. I looked, and everybody seemed to be doing it in two pulls or, at the very least, pausing once every so often to get a DPS AOE in there or, as somebody said, a Holy.

1. I pre-shield them before they pull any mobs at all. This protects them from some initial autos while running.
2. I always have Excogitation (strongest heal) ready to use on the tank when they stop moving, because I know their health may dip a huge amount when they stop.
3. Then I apply all my stuff depending on what they need. Whispering Dawn (area regen), Fey Illumination (mitigation/buff fairie heal potency), Lustrate (heal) ready for when they need it. Maybe Sacred Soil but it's just mitigation until Shadowbringers, and tanks have that covered already so I prefer to use Lustrate unless they are bad at mitigation. Adlo if absolutely necessary, depends how good the tank is.
4. Delay some of these things if the tank is handling it themselves ie. warrior using their heal, invulns and so on.

So I don't really play White Mage and only ever played it in any expansion to level it, and in ARR I just played it to unlock Paladin. But if we were to compare things...

Benediction instead of Excogitation
Asylum instead of Whispering Dawn
Divine Benison instead of Fey Illumination
Tetragrammaton, Assize or Afflatus Solace instead of Lustrate

...and that's not even considering that you have

Holy
Regen
Medica II regen

Even not counting GCDs, WHM has a lot of advantages over my healer of choice. If their health dips due to lack of mitigation, have Divine Benison ready or use Holy and use your dozens of heals on them that I don't even have myself on a Scholar.

Sometimes you will get an undergeared tank that doesn't know what CDs are. And almost no tank will use level 90 food like I would for Vitality. That might make it harder, and sometimes that's just how it is. But you have a lot of kit there that looks better than the breadcrumbs Scholar has at that level.