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  1. #11
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    I always worry what they'll take away instead of what they'll add nowadays , my bet is they'll gut Sidewinder or Dots altogether. I felt bard was more complete in Shb then it is now and I personally liked it more when songs were only 20 secs . If anything they'll prolly go the Rdm route and just add another layer to Apex/Blast .
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  2. #12
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    OM3GA-Z3RO's Avatar
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    Celestria Thurmand
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    Sidewinder and Dots are already gutted.

    Dots were used to proc the songs effects but not anymore

    Sidewinder did extra Damage per Dot but now it is just an oGCD attack

    I stopped playing Bard when they ruined them in EW.
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  3. #13
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    Pink Perfection
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    Quote Originally Posted by OM3GA-Z3RO View Post
    Sidewinder and Dots are already gutted.

    Dots were used to proc the songs effects but not anymore

    Sidewinder did extra Damage per Dot but now it is just an oGCD attack

    I stopped playing Bard when they ruined them in EW.
    They should bring Sidewinder back man. I don't care that much about Repertoire not being tied by dots, but Sidewinder is so bland and boring as it is now. We already have Bloodletter and Rain of Death and they are way more interesting ogcds, I don't understand why do we need Sidewinder and Empyreal Arrow, they feel like filler abilities.

    If I could change anything, I'd make Sidewinder have 45s cooldown and deal damage based on how low the duration of the dots is, while Empyreal Arrow grants Repertoire.
    Or I'd make Sidewinder be what it was before but Empyreal Arrow speeds up the dots by triggering their dot damage and decreasing the duration by 3 seconds.
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  4. #14
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    Ilyn Payne
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    Quote Originally Posted by OM3GA-Z3RO View Post
    Sidewinder and Dots are already gutted.

    Dots were used to proc the songs effects but not anymore

    Sidewinder did extra Damage per Dot but now it is just an oGCD attack

    I stopped playing Bard when they ruined them in EW.
    Oh trust me I know ... sigh ... I know .... and by SE logic they play no real role in the overall rotation now so might as well give them the boot altogether. They'll prolly kill both dots and give you 1 ogcd dot akin to paladins goring blade now or ninjas shadow fang in shb just to throw in the burst window .
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  5. #15
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    Celestria Thurmand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandso View Post
    They should bring Sidewinder back man. I don't care that much about Repertoire not being tied by dots, but Sidewinder is so bland and boring as it is now. We already have Bloodletter and Rain of Death and they are way more interesting ogcds, I don't understand why do we need Sidewinder and Empyreal Arrow, they feel like filler abilities.

    If I could change anything, I'd make Sidewinder have 45s cooldown and deal damage based on how low the duration of the dots is, while Empyreal Arrow grants Repertoire.
    Or I'd make Sidewinder be what it was before but Empyreal Arrow speeds up the dots by triggering their dot damage and decreasing the duration by 3 seconds.
    Those ideas would make me play Bard again.

    I hate it that the game has no more risks in terms of playing skillfully, the Sidewinder dealing damage depending on how close the dots are to expiring sounds fun.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by OM3GA-Z3RO View Post
    Those ideas would make me play Bard again.

    I hate it that the game has no more risks in terms of playing skillfully, the Sidewinder dealing damage depending on how close the dots are to expiring sounds fun.
    They should hire me for the balance team, I'd make the game fun again (probably break the game as well).
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by OM3GA-Z3RO View Post
    Sidewinder and Dots are already gutted.

    Dots were used to proc the songs effects but not anymore

    Sidewinder did extra Damage per Dot but now it is just an oGCD attack

    I stopped playing Bard when they ruined them in EW.
    Wait bard's dots don't interact with pitch perfect or whatever it was anymore?
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  8. #18
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    Alice Cellenia
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    Nope. Hasn't since 6.0 dropped.

    Was a late addition too since it still did back during the media tour.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Wait bard's dots don't interact with pitch perfect or whatever it was anymore?
    Nope, making dots even more pointless.

    Keep track on dots was too difficult apparently.
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  10. #20
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Yeah for the longest time I thought dots still did procs but I noticed I was still getting them when I forgot to refresh my dots once.
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