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    Elissar's Avatar
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    Ellisar Loravalur
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    This right here is a major issue I have with the game's storytelling in recent years. There are genuinely interesting places in this game's universe with interesting people with interesting points of view that differ from the scions' in major ways. But the story always treats us as the 'correct' point of view, and if someone disagrees with us, they're typically portrayed as the bad guy and/or outright wrong, arrogant, stupid, etc for thinking the way they do.
    That is the only aspect that i don't like about the MSQ. We "solve" every political problem with democracy and equality. Ul'dah, Ala Mhigo and Ishgard. Shame.
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    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Valamist Hurlstone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    That is the only aspect that i don't like about the MSQ. We "solve" every political problem with democracy and equality. Ul'dah, Ala Mhigo and Ishgard. Shame.
    As VelKallor above said, thats a rather toned down viewpoint on battles that cost hundreds of lives and great upheavel that is/will take decades to settle and change. Even so, I actually like that thats how we change things. I honest disagree with the idea that the themes of the game are ‘childish’ or weak in anyway just because it actual empathises the idea of hopeful change and better ways to live/rule.

    With Ul'dah though I do hate how thats been swept up under the carpet. ARR shows it as this melting pot on the fringe of collapse, in need of real change, but Heavensward just decided to wrap it up with like one quest, and further attempts felt very weak and akin to “Oh Nanamo you where silly to think a Republic would be a good idea. Look, you say things are getting better now in EW because… we said so? Yeah. Oh ware a mask when meeting Lolorito, thats enough to wrap that arc right?” I honestly would have loved it if Ul’dah had been burnt to the ground and the guillotines brought out (eyes Lolorito) and got a chance to inact actual change, but alas…
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    Mizuchi Hikaze
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    As VelKallor above said, thats a rather toned down viewpoint on battles that cost hundreds of lives and great upheavel that is/will take decades to settle and change. Even so, I actually like that thats how we change things. I honest disagree with the idea that the themes of the game are ‘childish’ or weak in anyway just because it actual empathises the idea of hopeful change and better ways to live/rule.

    With Ul'dah though I do hate how thats been swept up under the carpet. ARR shows it as this melting pot on the fringe of collapse, in need of real change, but Heavensward just decided to wrap it up with like one quest, and further attempts felt very weak and akin to “Oh Nanamo you where silly to think a Republic would be a good idea. Look, you say things are getting better now in EW because… we said so? Yeah. Oh ware a mask when meeting Lolorito, thats enough to wrap that arc right?” I honestly would have loved it if Ul’dah had been burnt to the ground and the guillotines brought out (eyes Lolorito) and got a chance to inact actual change, but alas…
    It's kind of funny when you really think about it, this game heavily pushes the idea/concepts that there is only one way to lead a successful city state and everything else outside that is wrong.
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    Last edited by Nav_Fae; 07-13-2023 at 10:14 PM.