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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel0hDee View Post
    I'm sorry you feel my *mentioning* my disability is me "pulling the disability card" but that's not a great way to induce me to want to server hop to be with you. I was simply stating -why- so much of this game's content I cannot do. Yes, there is a *lot* of other content as well, but it's sad when I can't even discuss my issues without someone calling it "pulling a X card".
    I thought the point of your thread was to discuss crafting material drop rates on open world mobs, not your health issues. Your health issues have nothing to do with the drop rate so why bring them up? That's why it comes across as pulling the disability card. Your disability is not relevant to the topic.

    A game forum is generally not the best place to try to get into a discussion about health problems unless it's to discuss reasonable accommodation that facilitate participation (such as the color blind filters and specific mechanic marker shapes that help those that are color blind) or to ask others for advice on how to adapt to content made more challenging by the health problem based on their own experiences.

    Even if I'm coming off harsh when it comes to the disability card, my offer is genuine when it comes to helping you feel included in content. Sometimes it's our fears holding us back from trying to be included because we're afraid we'll make a mistake and others will start yelling at us (something I deal with frequently in my own struggles with social anxiety). That can mean taking the risk to show ourselves that we can do something instead of allowing the negative inner voice convince us it is not possible. The best way to start is to join a group that understands what it can be like even if their issues aren't exactly the same as your own.

    Perhaps you don't feel comfortable with me now. I understand, I tend to get way too blunt on occasion. But at least reach out to try to find a similar group that will help you feel included instead of allowing yourself to feel more and more excluded when that shouldn't be happening.
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  2. #12
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    I mentioned them because farming monsters for drops is generally a thing I can do and not feel like the game doesn't want me here. Your response was more harsh than I would have cared for, and I'm not going into details of my illnesses, just that they prohibit me from actively taking part in large swaths of the game. I just want to be able to actively take part in a game I enjoy, without having to spend hours either FATE farming when that's not something I can consistently do, or be told I'm playing "wrong" because I'm not as efficient as possible with my retainers. I'm not here to min/max, I'm here to try to relax. I was merely stating that I wish the drop rates could be improved. and it felt like everyone dogpiled on me.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel0hDee View Post
    I was merely stating that I wish the drop rates could be improved. and it felt like everyone dogpiled on me.
    I'm sorry that you ended up feeling that way.

    It probably would have gone better if you had simply said "I wish the drop rates are better, I prefer to do my own farming" and left it at that.

    You're not alone. Others have expressed the concern about the drop rates over the years. But SE sets the drop rates considering all possible sources of an item, not a single source, and how much they feel is appropriate to be getting into circulation. We now have gemstones to supplement the drops and what we might get from retainers if we feel like we don't have access to enough.

    I know you said that you also want the gemstones to purchase other things but consider this: time you spend farming drops through the creature kills to get what you need is time you're not spending farming gemstones. If FATE farming is the faster way to get the items you want, it's better to use the gemstones to buy what you need. You'll then have more time left for additional FATE farming to get the other items you want.

    If numbers help to make more sense out of that: let's say your goal is 60 skins and that normal drop farming yields an average of 2 skins per minute. That's a half hour to get what you need and you will get 0 gemstones during that time.

    Skins cost 2 gemstones at the gemstone vendor. FATEs reward 14 gemstones and take about an average of 2 minutes to clear (can be faster if you find a FATE farming group to join). That's 7 skins every 2 minutes, or about 18 minutes to get the 60 you need. That leaves you with 12 minutes leftover to continue farming gemstones for the other items you want to buy.

    Now those numbers are just for example. I don't know how many skins you get a minute or how fast you clear FATEs solo. You'd want to check your own times to figure out which is the better way for you to go.
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