Genuine Question Here

[Renalt]

Would those who have issues with the game in its current state prefer those who don't share said issues leave these forums? Ive seen alot of talk of you guys being silenced n such by these people and them being the reason the game is in an apparent decline. So I ask this just to see what the opinion on that is. Would you guys prefer if the space was more for just negative feedback?

To help steer it back onto topic I'll chip in.

I would say GD should be a neutral zone. Tell what you like/love and also what you dislike/hate. If it was only a place of praise...there would be no feedback on what actually isn't so great and there will be no suggestions to make things better. If it was a place of just negative feedback alone then it just becomes a place where...well...it becomes 4chan.

Is the game good? Yes it is. Is it the best? Nope. I had fun playing other MMOs that are sadly just dead MMOs. Why do I still play? I kinda don't right now? What would I like to see? The zones outside the cities actually mean something. There is just a ton of mobs I flat out ignore. I just ride/fly right by them. Hunts are a good idea but the get put down so fast it is more a train and less a hunt. You have arrived at your destination. Time to go to a new destination.

[Kes13a]

Would those who have issues with the game in its current state prefer those who don't share said issues leave these forums? Ive seen alot of talk of you guys being silenced n such by these people and them being the reason the game is in an apparent decline. So I ask this just to see what the opinion on that is. Would you guys prefer if the space was more for just negative feedback?

any forum that is just one side or the other is not a forum, its an echo chamber, and as such, is useless for feedback good or bad.

they should get rid of general, replace it with a feedback category, that does not allow comments. maybe like and dislike if they want some form of tracking on it, but zero discussion.

if they want to retain general, then the need to start actively moderating it. as it stands now, General is useless for feedback and is a swamp. people posting here in good faith from either angle, are setting themselves up for attacks and having the thread demolished for the sake of one side or another. "the game is great" you get attacked for being disingenuous or being a shill, SE employee or what have you. "game is awful" you get attacked for why are you playing? go play something else etc. and you cannot ignore that recently the place is a troll/necro thread heaven.

a feedback section if SE actually wants that would be ideal, and a properly moderated general. in my thinking, thats the only solution.

[CelestiCer]

Would those who have issues with the game in its current state prefer those who don't share said issues leave these forums? Ive seen alot of talk of you guys being silenced n such by these people and them being the reason the game is in an apparent decline. So I ask this just to see what the opinion on that is. Would you guys prefer if the space was more for just negative feedback?

" Hissatsu: Kaiten "... that will be all.

[Carin-Eri]

any forum that is just one side or the other is not a forum, its an echo chamber, and as such, is useless for feedback good or bad.

they should get rid of general, replace it with a feedback category, that does not allow comments. maybe like and dislike if they want some form of tracking on it, but zero discussion.

if they want to retain general, then the need to start actively moderating it. as it stands now, General is useless for feedback and is a swamp. people posting here in good faith from either angle, are setting themselves up for attacks and having the thread demolished for the sake of one side or another. "the game is great" you get attacked for being disingenuous or being a shill, SE employee or what have you. "game is awful" you get attacked for why are you playing? go play something else etc. and you cannot ignore that recently the place is a troll/necro thread heaven.

a feedback section if SE actually wants that would be ideal, and a properly moderated general. in my thinking, thats the only solution.

Totally agree, on all counts.

[Carin-Eri]

On the topic of moderation, whilst I completely agree that some moderation would be useful, there is a line that is too easy for those with the moderator tools to cross too.

Speaking from experience, some game CMs and/or forum moderators are very easily offended and all too willing to produce the 'ban-hammer' for even the most minor of negative comments about their game.

[IkaraGreydancer]

On the topic of moderation, whilst I completely agree that some moderation would be useful, there is a line that is too easy for those with the moderator tools to cross too.

Speaking from experience, some game CMs and/or forum moderators are very easily offended and all too willing to produce the 'ban-hammer' for even the most minor of negative comments about their game.

Being honest I think we could do for a bit of overmoderation for a bit. Would help keep posts such as the one above yours from being posted (and thats on both sides). Place has been the wild west for years.

[Aravell]

Everyone's in favour of heavy moderation thinking that all the trolls will be gone, until one day you or your friend is hit with a permanent ban for a minor offence. Best be careful what you wish for.

[Nav_Fae]

Everyone's in favour of heavy moderation thinking that all the trolls will be gone, until one day you or your friend is hit with a permanent ban for a minor offence. Best be careful what you wish for.

I been on these forums since 2.X and that's exactly what happened back then. There was a boycott of the forums back then over it cause people's friends were getting banned. I remember there being a couple people who were getting 20 - 30 likes per post, and for lack of a better term, had simps following them. Then one day they got banned for reasons that were never really made aware. Then it happened to two or three more equally fan favorited people and then the forums started to not be taken as seriously after that. The forum echo chamber has always been here, it's just shifted into other directions over the years. But back when we did have moderation, there were other problems with the forums we were dealing with.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Everyone's in favour of heavy moderation thinking that all the trolls will be gone, until one day you or your friend is hit with a permanent ban for a minor offence. Best be careful what you wish for.

If it means a more healthy forum in return then so be it. Keyword IF ofc. Cause as of right now what we have going on isn't working

[DiaDeem]

People usually seem more concerned with antagonizing each other than actually contributing much to most threads. It baffles me.