Revisiting the 10 year roadmap

[Ath192]

- a type of pvp that appeals to me that I don't have to switch games for
- multiple types of raiding of all difficulties that appeal to me that I don't have to switch games for
- playing my own character. no offense, FFXVI is banger, but I like my own character due to attachment
- being able to make my own choice in a wide spectrum of activities not limited to current patch, usually with other people
- human interaction with other players that I dont have to switch games for [most important]

Probably more I could name but can't remember from the top of my hat. What Im trying to say is, the overall quality may not be great, but its a huge sandbox to me. Could FFXIV need improvement? Absolutely but Im not gonna bash the game on the level like some people do because it doesn't fulfill my every desire.

I am glad to simply have a stable MMORPG that doesn't fold itself by making tanks completely useless and turn everything into a 1min fight or crush itself because Devs can't stop making actually terrible decisions that cause a mass exodus of players.

Most of these including the PvP mode were designed before the stipulated 6 month mark. So those activities have already been paid for more than twice over.

Don’t get me wrong I’m glad you enjoy the game, but it doesn’t take away from the fact your are getting ripped off even if you don’t feel like you are. We all are when we compare what other games could offer for the same type of cash we are spending.

Small mini games in the form of PVP and 10 minute linear instances are not worth $150.00 dollars a year.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Most of these including the PvP mode were designed before the stipulated 6 month mark. So those activities have already been paid for more than twice over.

Don’t get me wrong I’m glad you enjoy the game, but it doesn’t take away from the fact your are getting ripped off even if you don’t feel like you are. We all are when we compare what other games could offer for the same type of cash we are spending.

Small mini games in the form of PVP and 10 minute linear instances are not worth $150.00 dollars a year.

Im paying for an online service that doesn't have to put character progression into micro transactions to sustain itself because of this. How much I get out of it each month is my own choice and not exactly easy to quantify number - someone who is new and blasts off crazy in month 1 will have the value of his lifetime, someone who logs for raiding, pvp and social interaction will obviously get less.

For me it is worth that money, and no matter how much people seem to shit on that mode, PvP is a massive factor for why Im staying. It also helps that the overall game's setting suits me.

The Riot MMO or the Tera PS may be diversions that may be well worth my time, but I will continue supporting FFXIV until it either shuts down or turns into something I cannot put money into with good conscience.

[Renathras]

- a type of pvp that appeals to me that I don't have to switch games for
- multiple types of raiding of all difficulties that appeal to me that I don't have to switch games for
- playing my own character. no offense, FFXVI is banger, but I like my own character due to attachment
- being able to make my own choice in a wide spectrum of activities not limited to current patch, usually with other people
- human interaction with other players that I dont have to switch games for [most important]

Probably more I could name but can't remember from the top of my hat. What Im trying to say is, the overall quality may not be great, but its a huge sandbox to me. Could FFXIV need improvement? Absolutely but Im not gonna bash the game on the level like some people do because it doesn't fulfill my every desire.

I am glad to simply have a stable MMORPG that doesn't fold itself by making tanks completely useless and turn everything into a 1min fight or crush itself because Devs can't stop making actually terrible decisions that cause a mass exodus of players.

Im paying for an online service that doesn't have to put character progression into micro transactions to sustain itself because of this. How much I get out of it each month is my own choice and not exactly easy to quantify number - someone who is new and blasts off crazy in month 1 will have the value of his lifetime, someone who logs for raiding, pvp and social interaction will obviously get less.

For me it is worth that money, and no matter how much people seem to shit on that mode, PvP is a massive factor for why Im staying. It also helps that the overall game's setting suits me.

The Riot MMO or the Tera PS may be diversions that may be well worth my time, but I will continue supporting FFXIV until it either shuts down or turns into something I cannot put money into with good conscience.

These two posts are more or less the answer.

If it's not worth the money to you, why are you paying it?
If it's not enjoyable too you, why are you playing it?

And if it is those things, then bashing it endlessly makes no sense and isn't helpful.

Is it perfect? No.
Can it be improved? Yes.

Does that mean it needs constant bashing? No, and constant, incessant bashing doesn't help make it better, either.