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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    No, you're correct in saying that.

    I'm gonna share a little more, but as a disclaimer this isn't me or the person who told me this as bashing the devs, its more of a concern.

    From what I was told a head developer was bullying other developers, and a certain developer high up the chain left the team (including other devs along with him), it caused a rift within the company when they were trying to get Endwalker out the door as soon as possible

    Take it with a grain of salt since there is no direct info on this, so for now yes this is white noise as you said.

    I do wonder if it could correlate to the scrapped Expansion were supposed to get instead of Endwalker.

    We can only speculate if its true or not.

    I did make a topic at first, but I decided against it, but at the same time idk if I should withhold this so here it is, and maybe someone here might have heard something similar if it is true.
    Honestly, this would make some sense if it's true... but EW is unlikely to have been much better since the roadmap showed that we were getting very little from the get go. Content planning is unlikely to have been affected that much.

    But it's very possible it's a QA-focused developer that left, which is why QA sucks right now.
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    But it's very possible it's a QA-focused developer that left, which is why QA sucks right now.
    More likely no one left as theres no verification of any kind that this story is even remotely true.

    We dont know.
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    IMO it’s much more likely that this is still the hangover from the work from home situation forced by the pandemic. Complex game development is just way less efficient when you’re not all shoehorned into the same building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Complex game development is just way less efficient when you’re not all shoehorned into the same building.
    Seems to have worked just fine for Dragonflight from what I heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Seems to have worked just fine for Dragonflight from what I heard.
    Blizzard is a complex mess. Dragonflight might be good but the internal workings of that company is chaotic and on fire. It wouldn't surprise me if they got a new team of devs by its next expansion for reasons not directly related to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    Seems to have worked just fine for Dragonflight from what I heard.
    /shrug, there’s a million and one other examples of development teams that struggled to adapt and fell behind on their schedules as a result.

    As a former Bullfrog/EA world builder, I can vouch first hand that stuff just gets done faster when your supporting art team is sat right behind you. If I needed an asset or feature, the people I needed for it were right there on hand and could be mobilised immediately if needed.
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    As a former Bullfrog/EA world builder,
    OMG Bullfrog..theres a name I havent heard in a LOOONG time. Populous, Dungeon Keeper, oh those were the days.and Syndicate. I still have that on cd somewhere.

    HUGE for their time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    OMG Bullfrog..theres a name I havent heard in a LOOONG time. Populous, Dungeon Keeper, oh those were the days.and Syndicate. I still have that on cd somewhere.

    HUGE for their time.
    Yeah, it's been a while since I seen Bullfrog come up too. I played a lot of Theme Park and Populous: The Beginning. Checked out the online Match Maker like a year ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    Blizzard is a complex mess. Dragonflight might be good but the internal workings of that company is chaotic and on fire. It wouldn't surprise me if they got a new team of devs by its next expansion for reasons not directly related to the game.
    It absolutely is a mess but that is irrelevant in this context. They arguably did better work during their remote work period than before it, the WoW team at least, and that's the only point I was making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    It absolutely is a mess but that is irrelevant in this context. They arguably did better work during their remote work period than before it and that's the only point I was making.
    I mean... ARR did better than 1.0 too with its own rework. The whole comparison is apples to oranges really. Nothing is preventing WoW from having their own "Endwalker" after Dragonflight and following in our footsteps. Or maybe we're following in theirs. Hard to really tell anymore.
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