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    Unlike Storm I don't give a crap about the "prestige" of housing (I couldn't care less about other players showing off whatever, I'll look at it once and might say "neat" and then forget about it forever), however I completely agree with him that if Square wanted to fix this, they could. It baffles my mind that anyone sees housing demolition at all in a positive light. Sure does suck for those people that have to stop playing for long periods of time due to IRL issues, they might still want their house but oh well! It is an outright predatory tactic that a developer, aka a BUSINESS who's #1 priority is money making (let's not pretend it's not, if it wasn't we wouldn't have viera/hrothgar and healers in the situation they are), tries to put a positive spin on so that the consumers will be distracted by what it really is.

    I'm one of the few (apparently) people who actually LIKE Goblet, and I STILL had to settle for a small (after multiple attempts at a small and medium), and I'm really unhappy with it. Someone asked previously something along the lines of "why do you even need a medium" and I'm just floored by that question. Uhh, more room for being creative? You can be as creative with your designing as you want with a small, some designs just flat out will not look all that great in a small. It's extremely cramped. I don't even understand why that needs to be explained, I'd assume it'd be common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    It baffles my mind that anyone sees housing demolition at all in a positive light..
    Okay, an example:
    There are 20 houses.

    Joe buys 5 large houses due to a variety of shenanigans and gaming the system.

    Joe stops playing for 3 years.
    Question: With no demolition timer, what happens to those 5 houses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Okay, an example:

    Question: With no demolition timer, what happens to those 5 houses?
    Wards 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 are added via self-create of wards due to lack of housing, due to all the active houses having an owner, thus leaving the 5 houses available for when Joe decides to come back, and new owners being able to get houses in the new opened wards.

    I fixed housing, where's my money ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Wards 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 are added via self-create of wards due to lack of housing, due to all the active houses having an owner, thus leaving the 5 houses available for when Joe decides to come back, and new owners being able to get houses in the new opened wards.

    I fixed housing, where's my money ?
    Ummm, is ask if servers can handle extra load? Is housings completely gone everywheres? Is need to checks on these things first before addings more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Ummm, is ask if servers can handle extra load? Is housings completely gone everywheres? Is need to checks on these things first before addings more.
    Oh I'm sorry this is Square Enix a small indie company, nevermind then
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Oh I'm sorry this is Square Enix a small indie company, nevermind then
    I wouldn't be surprised if the way they set housing up is such a mess that they couldn't afford the necessary servers to give everyone a house even if they wanted to.

    This doesn't mean I'm defending the system, simply an observation that it's probably a lot more inefficient than it should be because they never planned for the current player numbers when they made it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Wards 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 are added via self-create of wards due to lack of housing, due to all the active houses having an owner, thus leaving the 5 houses available for when Joe decides to come back, and new owners being able to get houses in the new opened wards.

    I fixed housing, where's my money ?
    I'd be thrilled if they did that, but we both know they won't for one reason or another. Whether Mao is correct and servers are the issue, they simply would rather have it be a scarce commodity for the perma subbers, or they still are clinging to this notion of communities and FCs, I don't know, but they really don't seem to want to add more wards constantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Okay, an example:

    Question: With no demolition timer, what happens to those 5 houses?
    Okay sure, if we're gonna go hyperbolic with our examples. 45 days though? REALLY? Your defense of 45 days is... 3 years?

    And if Joe comes back, since he still by SE's crappy planning didn't do anything technically wrong (even though it IS crappy of him to hog that many houses even when he's actively playing), he is still entitled to those houses he spent money on. Like... I don't see the need to punish players like this?

    And I'd like to know how Joe has five houses? Legitimately asking, I know you can get a surprising number of houses, but how does one obtain five?

    This is on SE for poor planning, not properly designing housing to begin with, and their bullheaded refusal to fix the situation. Maybe I'm weird, but I don't like punishing players for the dev's screw ups.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 06-28-2023 at 11:47 AM.