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    DC Travel and its decimation of non-Aether NA PF

    Just as the title says, DC travel -- while a great feature, particularly for the social aspects of the game -- has effectively decimated Party Finder everywhere but Aether in NA.

    PFs on non-Aether NA DCs take ages to fill (if ever, in some cases), and those who may not have wanted to travel are now forced to do so in order to have reasonable access to certain content. On the flip side, when you travel, you lose access to all content specific to your home world/DC (retainers, supplies, communications, island, etc), which is hella inconvenient and irritating if you didn't want to travel to begin with. Mostly everyone I've had discussion with about this has expressed some level of frustration about the situation, but also the resignation of not being sure anything will ever be done to address it.

    I'm not suggesting they completely shut down DC travel, nothing that drastic, but personally I think it would be nice to see some kind of adjustment to help rebalance the situation. Perhaps some kind of benefit to running duties in your own DC, or maybe restricting PF usage so current (non-echo) content can only be run on your own DC. I don't know, something.

    I'm curious what others are feeling about the current state of PF and, for those who are also frustrated, what would you suggest to address the problem?
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Its crazy really. I was in a PF the other day where they were happy that we were accepting of them from coming from other datacenters because apparently there is a lot of hate from people traveling to aether just to raid. At peak hours each instance can see upward to 50+ groups in pf.
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    Only time Mao has troubles is when others come from other worlds to join in hunts trains. When hunts trains has 200+ peoples, is lucky to gets single hit in on critter before its explodes. Otherwise, Mao nots mind at all because is help peoples from low pop worlds find groups to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlehobbit13 View Post
    Just as the title says, DC travel -- while a great feature, particularly for the social aspects of the game -- has effectively decimated Party Finder everywhere but Aether in NA.

    PFs on non-Aether NA DCs take ages to fill (if ever, in some cases), and those who may not have wanted to travel are now forced to do so in order to have reasonable access to certain content. On the flip side, when you travel, you lose access to all content specific to your home world/DC (retainers, supplies, communications, island, etc), which is hella inconvenient and irritating if you didn't want to travel to begin with. Mostly everyone I've had discussion with about this has expressed some level of frustration about the situation, but also the resignation of not being sure anything will ever be done to address it.

    I'm not suggesting they completely shut down DC travel, nothing that drastic, but personally I think it would be nice to see some kind of adjustment to help rebalance the situation. Perhaps some kind of benefit to running duties in your own DC, or maybe restricting PF usage so current (non-echo) content can only be run on your own DC. I don't know, something.

    I'm curious what others are feeling about the current state of PF and, for those who are also frustrated, what would you suggest to address the problem?
    There's another issue DC travel causes and that's the the numerous players from Dynamis flooding other DCs' DF. A lot of us used to be insulated from the worst of Crystal and Dynamis but now they're unleashed everywhere.
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    Sometimes I see parties on Aether that are almost entirely people from Crystal or almost entirely from Primal and it makes you wonder what the point was in switching.

    I don't think we should be unable to DC travel, but a cross-DC Party Finder and a cross-DC matching system could be designed. What it would have to do is automatically choose which data center to switch everyone to before entering the duty. It could just go to the party leader's one for pre-formed parties.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Sometimes I see parties on Aether that are almost entirely people from Crystal or almost entirely from Primal and it makes you wonder what the point was in switching.

    I don't think we should be unable to DC travel, but a cross-DC Party Finder and a cross-DC matching system could be designed. What it would have to do is automatically choose which data center to switch everyone to before entering the duty. It could just go to the party leader's one for pre-formed parties.
    Basically blame it on the housing issues, and people's need for personalized space. We all want Large/Med housing, and creating new Datacenters just for housing really wasn't the answer.

    So now we all live in the suburbs and travel to the city every day.
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Sometimes I see parties on Aether that are almost entirely people from Crystal or almost entirely from Primal and it makes you wonder what the point was in switching.

    I don't think we should be unable to DC travel, but a cross-DC Party Finder and a cross-DC matching system could be designed. What it would have to do is automatically choose which data center to switch everyone to before entering the duty. It could just go to the party leader's one for pre-formed parties.
    This is what they need. This solves all the issues of Primal/Crystal/Dynamis people being basically forced off of their chosen worlds, without actually removing DC travel.
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    Hot take: DC travel was a mistake. But we're here now so I wouldn't revert it back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I don't think we should be unable to DC travel, but a cross-DC Party Finder and a cross-DC matching system could be designed. What it would have to do is automatically choose which data center to switch everyone to before entering the duty. It could just go to the party leader's one for pre-formed parties.
    I guess I'd be worried about how that would track for ping, but otherwise some kind of cross-DC PF seems like a decent thought on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    Hot take: DC travel was a mistake. But we're here now so I wouldn't revert it back.
    Like I said, it was great for the social aspect, but yeah, in hindsight they shouldn't have unleashed it without any restrictions. Hell, on Dynamis you can barely run normal content because so many people travel out, nevermind any effects on the overall raiding scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlehobbit13 View Post
    I guess I'd be worried about how that would track for ping
    The ping would be the same within-region. If we get region travel, then the ping would be different but it could just decide based on the party leader's region.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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