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  1. #81
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    MariaArvana's Avatar
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    Maria Rubrum
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    I thought this was already the case for both mounts and BLU spells?
    No. the mounts/minions from any of the Alexander, Omega & Eden savage raids have a 100% drop rate regardless of unsync or not. It is the case for BLU spells though, where synced guarantees(?) (or at least heavily increases) the spell learned rate.
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  2. #82
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    PickledToast's Avatar
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    Diablo Diabolical
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    Zalera
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I look forward to unsyncing the eden raids and getting the hard earned rewards this lad doesnt want me to have
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  3. #83
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    Nickolas-Hopps's Avatar
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    Ryan Rousch
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    Goblin
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    Reaper Lv 90

    If this isn't the most elitist jerk, WoW hard core raider response to this game

    This is literally the attitude that turned off so many WoW players. They introduced LFR gear in WoW to appease those, minority, of you players who felt entitled to better things cause... reasons. We all pay for subscriptions and if you got the item synced, good for you. The majority of us FFXIV players don't super care how you got said item, we just like the way it looks. Glamour is the true end game!


    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    People who just run content unsync'd clearly don't care about all the hard work and effort the developers put into the savage fights. For example take a look at that disgusting "good bye world" strat for o12s. Players would rather die than do the mechanic properly and it's not even that hard!

    Either that or please start adding unskippable mechanics like Light Rampant

    Raiders like me care about the hard work and effort that square puts into the fights, players who do fights unsync'd don't care about the effort the devs put into the fights at all, they just care about the rewards.

    I do appreciate square squashing stats which will make unsync'd content harder, but I don't believe that's enough.
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  4. #84
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    AnotherPerson's Avatar
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    Cain Andleft
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    Malboro
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Patiently waits as I watch people get baited to respond to a year old necro'd thread by a new account for trolling
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  5. #85
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    redheadturk's Avatar
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    Nabriales Majestic
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    Jenova
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    I'm a firm believer of if you want the shiny things do the blooming content. Unsync in general was a terrible idea as it destroys the value of the shiny things...

    Whats worse is the sheer hypocrisy by the devs... On one hand they say "The shiny things have no value and should be available to everyone..."

    But the exact same devs then turn around and say "the shiny things are exclusive and giving them out to everyone destroys there's value " *COUGHS* PVP gear and Ultimate stuff.

    Pick one and stick with it. If they have no significance or value then dish out the PVP and Ultimate stuff the same way you dish out everything else.

    If they do have significance and value then stop dishing stuff out everything via unsynced and roflstomp modes or other handouts.

    Want the shiny? Do the content properly.

    Simple.

    Perhaps then people would be less bored because they'd have more stuff to actually do...
    Nah fam, let me unsync my old savages. I say this as someone who has cleared savage before.
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  6. #86
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    SilversLyu's Avatar
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    Neni Feanie
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    Lich
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Lmao the type of niche takes people come up with. Nobody does synced savage for the mounts or gear in the first place. Why would people care?
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    Last edited by SilversLyu; 06-24-2023 at 10:15 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    It's probably the job i'll level cap the last because i think it looks stupid. You're just throwing donuts at stuff while making weird mating call movements.

  7. #87
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Dis may be bait, but I have wondered why such content can be done unsynced and you can still get all the rewards. Seems kind of redundant and a waste of resources in the long run, since the player isn't exactly playing the content as it was originally intended a d be rewarded for it by basically playing on Journalist Mode. But meh, that's just me. :/
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  8. #88
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    Dis may be bait, but I have wondered why such content can be done unsynced and you can still get all the rewards. Seems kind of redundant and a waste of resources in the long run, since the player isn't exactly playing the content as it was originally intended a d be rewarded for it by basically playing on Journalist Mode. But meh, that's just me. :/
    I would strongly argue it the other way, it being a waste of resources to do that suggestion as it would strongly discourage anyone to do it again. The group wanting to have that old experience for content with non-current rewards is very small, the group doing it for first time story and glamour, solo, who couldn't have done it before either due to schedule (current, or general) or difficulty concerns (whether skill or just "don't want to try that hard" lol) is much much larger.

    For example I used to do savage in DF and found it to be an absolutely massive waste of time, people really failed to learn mechanics either prior to or during the actual event and you'd spend time dying to the same stuff usually due to the same people, yet if I used PF I'd be bound around some people's schedule or social drama- it's just honestly more bad stress then good stress and something I don't find fun. Doing hard stuff isn't the problem, it's the herd of cats that I find I just don't want to do- at all, ever. Want to queue for a content and be able to reasonably complete that content, with a death or two is fine, but an hour of dying cause people don't learn is just ew. Yet I will come back around when the content is echo'd so hard it's easy in a group or when I can solo it. Probably why before Blue Mage's release I was "okay" with the idea if it was a solo king- it kind of is but the gameplay is pretty poor until much much later and it still has some, imo, bad choices like self stuns and weak gameplay interactions with spells (has improved a lot, as to be honest at actual release I was first world upset at it's state and quality (upset, sad, but it's still just a game)).

    To partition it off to just that select group and then easily watch it die except for a very very few handful of groups (who could have just done min sync as currently available) therefore, imo, would be the real waste of resources.

    I am fine with the argument that ilvl grows too quickly or echo is too strong and may take away some elements, but removing the ability to overpower content (or removing reward opportunities) is a substantial waste of player opportunity.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 06-25-2023 at 07:03 AM.

  9. #89
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    Kaliesto's Avatar
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Brynhildr
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Mounts, gear, and glam are not really all that when its 100% fully accessible when you really think about it, made me not care to sync Savage knowing I'll get that stuff at a later date.

    and by that time the savage gear will end up being outdated, so no one is really missing out.

    Not going to tear my hair out with 7 other people for a half a day or all day or weeks on end (sorry I'm not willing to suffer endless Deaths and become frustrated).

    If its limited time like PVP Mounts then I'm willing to put in the work.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 06-25-2023 at 12:21 PM.

  10. #90
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    I would also argue, there aren’t enough players doing savage when it is new/relevant to justify the cost in making them unless the devs can get more player hours in them via unsync’d farming. (More the trials with the mounts, I get that MUCH more people do the raid series)

    Some people never attempt them in the first place when new, others just do a 1 and done clear for titles/etc, or just to say you’ve done it.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 06-25-2023 at 08:59 PM.

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