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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    I mostly log in for an hour or two to wind down after work, then go play something else. Been working through my backlog. Horizon Forbidden West was awesome. Think I'm gonna go back to Tales of Arise next.
    Ah that explains why I've never been able to find ya when I do log in. The rare moments I do.

    Yes I'm stalking you. Well trying. Sorry. If you don't want to be found let me know and I'll stop here and now.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post

    Yes I'm stalking you. Well trying.
    You just know this is going to be taking out of context sometime in the future.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I wouldnt say it was just because of fear of addiction, while I believe its partially true considering even back in FFXI, the launcher always had thay warning message to play sparingly.

    But its also most likely that people have started to move on from obvious grindy retention systems where it turns the game into a job. Thats probably a major part for why FFXIV lacks longer retention content.
    I disagree. The game could very well put more effort into its content. After all it took about 3 years from the game launching, failing, and getting completely destroyed, rebuilt, and re-written from 2010-2013. In the present every 2 years we get 6 disposable zones and the same style raids with some slightly different content on the side.

    People haven't moved on from retention systems, the game has simply stopped putting out content and the positive marketing spin on it is that it has moved on from grindy retention systems. If there were interesting content in the game then these complaints wouldn't be getting raised.
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  4. #74
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Ah that explains why I've never been able to find ya when I do log in. The rare moments I do.

    Yes I'm stalking you. Well trying. Sorry. If you don't want to be found let me know and I'll stop here and now.
    I'm usually on around 3-5 PM Eastern. Sometimes a bit later, mostly on Tuesday.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    You just know this is going to be taking out of context sometime in the future.
    Oh for sure it will

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    I'm usually on around 3-5 PM Eastern. Sometimes a bit later, mostly on Tuesday.
    I'll take that it's OK. Cool. Hope to see you sometime soon.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayHealer View Post
    Im genuinely happy for you, just one thing: avoid LoL summoner rift like the plague, you have not seen True Toxicity until you play summoner rift with randoms.

    From my part im a very casual ffxiv player so I take my time to complete all the content, hell I didnt even still finish all post Endwalker MSQ or pandaemonium, right now im in the relic weapon grinds.
    Oh yeah, i played league from beta until season 4, and hard quit any normal/ranked games on league. Its a toxic cesspool of people tilting over the smallest stuff, riot really aughta offer counseling as part of the game experience.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    Are we really at a point as a society where we have to brag about how we managed to (evidently not completely) ween ourselves off of a video game? OP feels like an underhanded complaint against the game and nothing more to be honest. But in the off chance thats wrong, congrats on finally finding something fun to do.

    Now if certain other forum dwellers could only learn from your actions and go find something fun to do.

    For many of us, FFXIV is still fun and offers literally years worth of content in store for us. Guess I understand if one had been playing for 10 years they probably dont have a lot to look forward to though. If that does ever happen to me, I too will play other games or find something else to do that is fun. If the game changes fundamentally from what I liked about it when I started, I will also simply quit or do other things. I learned my lesson from years on the WoW forums, yelling about all the problems there in a vain effort to make a game something that it isn't, doesn't work, and it isn't healthy.
    Is it really that hard to be happy for someone who has finally learned some of the lessons about gaming that we had already learned?

    The OP sounds a lot more positive now that they've taken a risk and followed the advice that other posters were giving them to try other games. They've found that there was value in that advice. There's a big difference between the tone of the posts they were making when they were still trying to force FFXIV to be their one and only game and the one at the start of this thread.

    They also mention that they see themselves coming back to play FFXIV in the future when there are major new content releases.

    Up to you if you want to see their post as a backhanded complaint. I see it as someone experiencing personal growth by trying something new. I've got no problem being glad they've found happiness trying other games while I continue to enjoy playing FFXIV.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    As a single play through story game this is an 8/10, as a game as a live service this game is a 3/10. Categorically awful to play year round and pay the sub the whole time.
    While I agree with it being maybe a 3/10 as a subscription mmo/live service game, at least since quite some time, I have to disagree with it being an 8/10 as a single player story game.

    Because if I were to treat it as a single player story-focused game then I would inevitably have to compare it with other AAA single player games and compared to those it often also falls woefully short, mostly due to the gameplay that the MSQ offers but especially when it comes to story presentation. Even if I were to go as far as to only compare it to story-focused single player games from around 2013 when ARR released.
    As a single player game it simply gets dragged down by it's mmorpg design.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    The whole point of FFXIV is to let you play other games. That’s why we all love it. We do the MSQ once or twice a year and then play other games. In fact, FFXIV is a great way to meet people to play other games with. Square Enix WANTS you to stop playing so you can buy FF16 (which has been confirmed GOTY and GOAT).
    Yes and no. If I appreciate the "not too much farming, short dailies, which takes you max a month to finish", there are a lot of time where the game seems to forget it's a mmo, and as such, it needs to give player long running content to do. With EW, if you're not a raider and are up to date with the older content, game is kinda boring right now.

    And if the "Square Enix WANTS you to stop playing so you can buy FF16 " is true, it's not the best move. Before 6.3, I was planning to buy a PS5 for FFXVI on day one. After 6.3 and 6.4, I waiting to have the opinion of people not matrixed by FFXIV. The state of XIV for the past 6 month is the reason why I don't plan to anymore. Why would I trust people that seems like they can't deliver anymore. The state of XIV did kill my hype for XVI. I don't know how average or not this feeling is, but I know I'm not alone to feel that.
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    Last edited by CNitsah; 06-22-2023 at 08:45 AM.

  10. #80
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    Well, XIV is not the only MMO I play.

    I am an 80s baby; it is instilled in us to beat games we start lol......

    ....I don't love XIV perse, 6.9/10 game.....but I gotta beat the main story.......However long it takes...

    ...Anyway, back to Shredder's Revenge.
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