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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Not sure I've seen that before. Does it have a recharge? Is there any ability in the game right now that works like that?
    Some of the actions in the game that work like that:
    • Storm's Edge
    • Dia
    • Bio
    • Combust
    • Eukrasian Dosis
    • Twin Snakes
    • Demolish
    • Disembowel
    • Chaos Thrust
    • Higanbana
    • Shadow of Death
    • Whirl of Death
    • Venomous Bite
    • Stormbite
    • Thunder I/III
    • Thunder II/IV
    Back up just two expansion and that list more than doubles in length.

    At anything less than the most stringent definition, Afflatus Misery, Wyrmwind Thrust, RDM's combo, etc., are also soft CDs. They have an expected frequency of access but allow for that timing to be rushed or delayed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Oh, so you're just saying "Would you like it better if it was what we have right now"?
    Except, of course, for having completely removed that allegedly crippling "UI" issue for which you previously (though not exclusively) condemned DoTs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    one of the big problems with DoTs - no matter the game - has always been the UI.
    ...and instead...
    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    leave only the issue of whether you despise rotating in actions other than your filler attack.
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    Glad we know now though, at least, that anything beyond 'that would give more things to press every so often, and therefore earns my disgust' is probably just a roundabout excuse.

    Clarity is good.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 06-20-2023 at 01:56 PM.

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    Ren Thras
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
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    I've never held the position of "despise rotating in actions other than your filler attack". That's been a caricature used incessantly to discredit everything I say, but is just a made up straw man. It's so easy to disprove, too, considering how many times I've proposed SGE have a rotation just like MCH. Which I've done a lot. If my position was "I don't ever want to press a second button", I wouldn't propose a 1-2-3 +something rotation.

    Not sure what you mean by "just a roundabout excuse", as it's never a position I've held.

    I don't believe the focus of Healers should be DPS rotations or complex DPS rotations, but I don't have an opposition to having other buttons to press that do damage. I've not advocated for Assize or Misery to be removed, for example, and even on WHM, my own proposals have been to get Holy into the single-target rotation. Again, why would I do that if I was opposed to ever pressing another button?

    If people didn't believe in these random lies that I've never said as if they were gospel truth, we'd get a lot farther in these conversations.
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