The "WTF, BS or GTFO" Thread.

[Rokien]

If you want to pay for someone else's healthcare, be my guest, but don't force a fellow human into paying it.

Hmm I bet you don't say the same thing with car insurance.

Private health care companies are super corrupted. I should know~

[Dragon]

Hmm I bet you don't say the same thing with car insurance.

Private health care companies are super corrupted. I should know~

While I don't agree with auto-insurance (as no such business model like insurance can continue to exist without an authoritarian backer), at least no one is forced to buy auto insurance, as auto-insurance is based on the assumption of one buying an automobile which is not something that requires one to live. However, requiring us all to pay for healthcare preempts us from the moment we're born or become citizens, which necessarily drives prices up as there is no legal escape from such a system.

You call them corrupt, but you don't call your own government corrupt? Get over yourself. The individual mandate was created by Newt Gingrich when he was a member of The Heritage Foundation, which was responsible for the quintessential Hillarycare that both Romneycare and Obamacare adopted.

[Rokien]

I never said government wasn't corrupt they are all corrupt.

You have to buy goods and services all the time with taxes, it's no different. You buy roads, schools, ect.. Health care would be like a road, but you will be healthier.

[Dragon]

I never said government wasn't corrupt they are all corrupt.

You have to buy goods and services all the time with taxes, it's no different. You buy roads, schools, ect.. Health care would be like a road, but you will be healthier.

Talk about putting the cart before the horse.

You should have first asked if I supported any of that other junk.

Hint: I'm a Panarchist.

[Rokien]

Well that explains a lot lol

hint: I'm part Socialist

It's funny because in real life vs games I'm complete opposite lol

[Yves]

Umm...mebbe we should kill the thread. ><.

[Dragon]

Well that explains a lot lol

hint: I'm part Socialist

It's funny because in real life vs games I'm complete opposite lol

I'm against neither socialism nor communism, I'm against authoritarianism. It just so happens today's socialists and communists are Stalinists and Marxists hiding behind the guise of Socialism and Communism (especially European socialists/communists).

Orwell for instance was a libertarian socialist, and in his commentary on Friedrich Hayek's own The Road to Serfdom, he said: "Shortly, Professor Hayek’s thesis is that Socialism inevitably leads to despotism, and that in Germany the Nazis were able to succeed because the Socialists had already done most of their work for them, especially the intellectual work of weakening the desire for liberty. By bringing the whole of life under the control of the State, Socialism necessarily gives power to an inner ring of bureaucrats, who in almost every case will be men who want power for its own sake and will stick at nothing in order to retain it. Britain, he says, is now going the same road as Germany, with the left-wing intelligentsia in the van and the Tory Party a good second. The only salvation lies in returning to an unplanned economy, free competition, and emphasis on liberty rather than on security. In the negative part of Professor Hayek’s thesis there is a great deal of truth. It cannot be said too often — at any rate, it is not being said nearly often enough — that collectivism is not inherently democratic, but, on the contrary, gives to a tyrannical minority such powers as the Spanish Inquisitors never dreamed of."

[HiirNoivl]

omg lock this stupid thread.

[Peptaru]

Noooo I'm enjoying reading the crap other people regurgitate like college sophomores! Then we'll reopen it in a couple years and see everyone's opinion be 100% changed! Petition to keep it open!

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