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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Dancer Lv 100

    Can we merge the 90 roulette + expert roulette going forward?

    If we're only getting 1 dungeon a patch it makes expert roulette alot more tedious after the first patch, since we get put down to 2 dungeons in the roulette. The dungeons aren't really that much harder or easier because of ILVL sync anyway, why seperate them and make expert roulette more boring?

    curious what others might think about this
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    If we're only getting 1 dungeon a patch it makes expert roulette alot more tedious after the first patch, since we get put down to 2 dungeons in the roulette. The dungeons aren't really that much harder or easier because of ILVL sync anyway, why seperate them and make expert roulette more boring?

    curious what others might think about this
    I fully support this as it would make the roulette much more enjoyable and help reduce burnout.

    This and other things need to be done to help mitigate burnout as that is going to hurt their bottom line in the end.

    I’d like to do all of the dungeons as Expert bonus again except for Dead End, depression dungeon can go away…
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    They might as well. The rewards from level 90 roulette aren't exactly that amazing anyways.

    But I feel like I remember people asking for it to be split for some reason and now we're going in the opposite direction.
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    I like how Expert ususally refers to easier dungeons than leveling.
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Last edited by Soge01; 06-15-2023 at 11:56 AM.

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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Do you feel like you HAVE to do every roulette?

    It's kind of nice to have the option to do a dungeon I KNOW back and forth rather than thinking I might get "THAT" dungeon (there is always a "that" dungeon for everyone). And yeah "that" dungeon can BE the current expert sure.

    But.. why remove an option for some more rewards?

    Don't like the expert dungeons? Don't do em.

    you really don't have to do every roulette every day. Go Run a few crystal conflict matches. Do some hunts. Maxing out your current tomestones isn't hard to do if you don't do the expert roulette.
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    Player GaiusDrakon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Don't like X? Don't do em.
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Do you feel like you HAVE to do every roulette?

    It's kind of nice to have the option to do a dungeon I KNOW back and forth rather than thinking I might get "THAT" dungeon (there is always a "that" dungeon for everyone). And yeah "that" dungeon can BE the current expert sure.

    But.. why remove an option for some more rewards?

    Don't like the expert dungeons? Don't do em.

    you really don't have to do every roulette every day. Go Run a few crystal conflict matches. Do some hunts. Maxing out your current tomestones isn't hard to do if you don't do the expert roulette.
    Because getting the same two dungeons for nearly five months is incredibly boring? Especially if one of those dungeons isn't particularly good. 90 Roulette isn't all that great. So unless you're farming the uncapped tome there's very little reason to bother with it compared to Expert. Combining the two simply adds more variety while upping the rewards. Which is a good thing considering hunts are vastly superior already.
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    "The silence is your answer."


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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    Only advantage I see for the current system is that it's more likely for those who actually need the gear to get it when you get the new dungeon 50% of the time.

    Still, it gets very boring so I like the suggestion from OP. I didn't mind as much when we got 2 dungeons per patch, so we had 4....but 2 is tedious. Especially if you get last-patches dungeon everyone vastly outgears 6 days a week (which I have...).
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Because getting the same two dungeons for nearly five months is incredibly boring? Especially if one of those dungeons isn't particularly good. 90 Roulette isn't all that great. So unless you're farming the uncapped tome there's very little reason to bother with it compared to Expert. Combining the two simply adds more variety while upping the rewards. Which is a good thing considering hunts are vastly superior already.
    Again.. you don't HAVE to do them. I'd rather have more options than less. Having another choice is better than there just being a juggernaut of 90s dungeons.

    What I'm saying is the rewards ARE there doing alternative content. So that choice is yours. You wanna run dungeons for em? You can do either though yes, one is far more efficient. But it's still entirely up to you.

    I don't think smushing them together and denying people the option to do one or the other (or both!) is a great idea.
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