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  1. #181
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Quote Originally Posted by keichirou View Post
    i see your point , but people gets fed up when something starts to become a pattern (especially when involves money), SE has a very predatory business style for a Sub type Game ,granted we get several items , not for free, we are paying for it remember, whoever thinks those cute seasonal outfits are "Free" they need some basic ...everything...
    and the fact they keep pushing items to their store that should be something is the reward system , well...they get to upset their customers more and more.
    this sort of mounts could be added to their veteran system , which has been left abandoned since...forever
    The only predatory bit I see is the retainer system. And even that is only really bad for folks who craft I'd say. Not a fan of that. As for the mogstation (of the ffxiv story rather) I don't see anything predatory there personally. So what they sell outfits/mounts people want in there. I can't call that predatory, it's just smart business. It'd be different if SE was touting that these things would be in the game and THEN they pivot to the store. But thats never the case (admittedly as far as I know). People build up their own expectations and then blame SE when it doesn't pan out the way they made themselves think it should have.
    Could the Vet system use an update 100%. But it'd literally just be instant items for many of us that have been around for years so the system would become dead water once again.
    One part I don't get is you saying seasonal items aren't free. How aren't they exactly? They don't cost money. And you sub pay for you to have access to the servers. The rest is just there for you to choose to obtain or not. But let's just say we ARE paying for everything we get in ffxiv with our subs, what difference does it make it were paying for it in game than if we buy off MS? By your logic we're still buying it one way or another. That's were that logic takes a dip south.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Because money. People buy it so why not?

    As a businessman I approve...get the easy cash grabs from a literal endless supply of 1s and 0s. *snip*
    I am continually surprised by the amount of cash people will spend for things which only exist within a game or app. Gear, mounts, extra gold, etc... players just eat it up, and in the end, they are left just holding nothing but binary code.

    As you pointed out, all someone has to do is make the code once and the business rakes in the money with no further investment required. It's one of the most profitable things ever.

    I'm just happy Square Enix hasn't gone to a pay to win model with their cash shop. Players may be upset certain mounts and gear aren't free; but, at least they aren't required to shell out money for best in slot gear or materia with superior stats in FFXIV.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    I am continually surprised by the amount of cash people will spend for things which only exist within a game or app. Gear, mounts, extra gold, etc... players just eat it up, and in the end, they are left just holding nothing but binary code.

    As you pointed out, all someone has to do is make the code once and the business rakes in the money with no further investment required. It's one of the most profitable things ever.

    I'm just happy Square Enix hasn't gone to a pay to win model with their cash shop. Players may be upset certain mounts and gear aren't free; but, at least they aren't required to shell out money for best in slot gear or materia with superior stats in FFXIV.
    While there is no gear exclusive to the store you can totally pay money TO SQUARE ENIX and accelerate your acquisition of gear and materia.
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  4. #184
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    This is pretty insulting especially since the model already existed.

    If this was something new and original outside of the game, sure, fine, but no I don't agree with this, and whoever greenlit this for mogstation.

    Honestly who is even pricing these models? Where are they getting their data to suggest that this prices are legitimate? Man Hours involved or what?
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 06-14-2023 at 05:25 PM.

  5. #185
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    One part I don't get is you saying seasonal items aren't free. How aren't they exactly? They don't cost money.
    I do agree that they're technically not free – the "price" being that you need to be subscribed to the game at the time of the event. If you're subscribed anyway, then yeah they're a freebie on top of it, but if not then you have to either pay to access the event and gear or you wait a year to pay a smaller amount for just the gear.
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    I am continually surprised by the amount of cash people will spend for things which only exist within a game or app. Gear, mounts, extra gold, etc... players just eat it up, and in the end, they are left just holding nothing but binary code.

    As you pointed out, all someone has to do is make the code once and the business rakes in the money with no further investment required. It's one of the most profitable things ever.
    The answer is in this thread. There are people unironically outraged that a couple pixels added in their in-game character are behind real money. Is pure comedy.
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  7. #187
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    Your company Chocobo is superior to this moint in every way except looks. It has unique mount music, it's earnable in game, you can dye it, you can customize the armor it wears, it can fight alongside you, and you can name it.

    I have no issues with store mounts. People can spend their money on whatever they want, but I do have an issue when SE cheapens the deal. The fact that this doesn't have unique mount music and is a store mout is my issue. If it had unique mount music, I wouldn't even be talking about it.
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  8. #188
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    Vel Kallor
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    I am continually surprised by the amount of cash people will spend for things which only exist within a game or app. Gear, mounts, extra gold, etc... players just eat it up, and in the end, they are left just holding nothing but binary code.
    The same can be said for any downloadable game.
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  9. #189
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    It doesnt even have unique music. No idea why people would buy that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kacho_Nacho View Post
    I am continually surprised by the amount of cash people will spend for things which only exist within a game or app. Gear, mounts, extra gold, etc... players just eat it up, and in the end, they are left just holding nothing but binary code.
    * Code and memories – hopefully the good sort and not the "imagine what else I could have done with that money" sort.
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